Gajim - 2023-10-12

I dislike it when things start working and I don't know why. ✏

chud: I need your gitlab username ✏

lovetox: should I expect that an update fixed the reconnect issue?

No

What you experienced was the server not telling gajim that it was shut down

So gajim will never reconnect

The Gajim input box has a shortcut for C-u, which erases content from the cursor to the start of line. On more than one occasion I've accidentally hit it, tried to undo, but the text is not restored 🤔️

lovetox: wusspuss

without context i thought that was an insult

chud: try now

I guess attempting shift-u could result in ctrl-u. maybe undo would be a good thing to have there.

add undo to conversations while we're at it

if unixland had a consistent GUI input box idiom, then i wouldnt be confused by why ctrl-w removes a tab rather than a word

and there would be a killring in every input buffer

but we live in a world where ui designers do whatever they want (not a stab at gajim at all, just generally this is why we cant have nice things)

opal: Emacs user? 😏

thats the sad part: no

im trying to figure out why my UNIX machine is breaking and im doing a deep dive into Hell to find lost knowledge and even more lost souls

because mobile and web development are the new, hip, and trendy things to care about

on the plus side, windows 11 doesnt look like its doing too better

year of the linux desktop may still be ours

we need an international holiday for system administrators and software developers and a mandatory monetary bonus to match

> and there would be a killring in every input buffer There are things like Klipper ↺

Also, I really don't understand this "putting stuff you delete in the clipboard" thing with emacs. Why would I want to cut word instead of deleting it? Tbh I never needed to cut one word at a time, while deleting a word at a time is handy.

just use ur mouse

double click delete

moving a mouse is the same speed as moving your fingers on a keyboard

vi has similar semantics, text gets deleted to register ""

well, vim at least, dunno if vi actually standardised the notion of a register

>There are things like Klipper a clipboard manager is not a killring

and i use a clipboard manager i wrote in a shell script and a C utility

so, i'm not taking suggestions

it calls run-parts(1) as well!

> The Gajim input box has a shortcut for C-u, which erases content from the cursor to the start of line. On more than one occasion I've accidentally hit it, tried to undo, but the text is not restored 🤔️ I don't think this is something gajim controls ↺

yeah its gtk input widgets

But we control restore of text

gajim libadwaita when?

I'm using a libadwaita theme for gajim rn

✏

libadwaita is for GTK4

when tho

its not planned

over

Gajim in qt when? 😏

One of my contacts has set a profile image, but it doesn't display for me. If i delete ~/.cache/gajim, the profile image is correctly downloaded and displayed the next time i start gajim. However, when i close gajim and open it again, the profile image is gone and I just see the placeholder image with the user's initial. What could be causing this? Where can I look to get a better idea of what's going wrong?

i have version 1.8.0 installed

> But we control restore of text lovetox: should I create an issue for it? ↺

yes ctrl + z should restore that

chili-b, you can try to start gajim with `gajim -l gajim.c.m.useravatar=DEBUG`

and send the output

lovetox: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/543f0160-0bbb-498e-a868-8b8cddf6a5d6

the "10/12/2023 17:49:32 (I) gajim.c.m.useravatar (domain) Avatar found in cache, update: user@domain fa71bcec7680f30904bd923a1e19fb924975500b" is relevant to the user in question and i actually do see the correct profile appear right when gajim starts, but it quickly changes back to the default (probably at the same time as this message is logged)

has the user more than one device online?

is this log right

all these lines are the same user?

i censored the user details, only the line i mentioned is relevant to the user i'm having the problem with

the user has 2 devices online

then try

-l gajim.c.m.useravatar=gajim.c.m.vcardtemp=DEBUG

i get an identical output

oh, there is one new line: 10/12/2023 18:03:59 (I) gajim.c.m.vcardtemp (domain) Discovered vcard-temp: domain

sorry

-l gajim.c.m.useravatar=gajim.c.m.vcardavatars=DEBUG

do you need to see the full output, or is it okay if i grep for the JID of the user

yes just the jid of the user

``` 10/12/2023 18:15:50 (I) gajim.c.m.useravatar | (domain) Avatar found in cache, update: user@domain fa71bcec7680f30904bd923a1e19fb924975500b 10/12/2023 18:15:50 (I) gajim.c.m.vcardavatars | (domain) Update: user@domain fa71bcec7680f30904bd923a1e19fb924975500b 10/12/2023 18:15:50 (I) gajim.c.m.vcardavatars | (domain) Avatar already known: user@domain fa71bcec7680f30904bd923a1e19fb924975500b 10/12/2023 18:15:50 (I) gajim.c.m.vcardavatars | (domain) user@domain has no avatar published 10/12/2023 18:15:53 (I) gajim.c.m.vcardavatars | (domain) user has no avatar published ``` ✏

no-one saw that ;)

this user has a avatar published but one of his clients sends use the info that there is no avatar published

normally there should a resource behind the jid

then you know which client it is

the avatar will start working if that client is offline probably

but in the end seems like a client bug on his side

okay, i'll try that

thank you

it could also be a server bug

check Acconts -> Server Info

and check which features are enabled at the bottom for avatars

i think it's a server issue, the device that is reporting no avatar isn't actually connected, so i think that response is something the server is falling back on due to some bug. thanks for your help

you can try to republish the avatar