Gajim - 2023-09-17

Why do I send messages to someone and he can't see it,but I can see the message he sends me ?

vagrant: Some servers will block direct messages from non-contacts ✏

I added him as a friend

But he can't see it

fjklp

is omemo being used?

has he added you as a contact?

if non-contact blocking is enabled on your friend's server, any message sent to him from an account that he has not added as a contact will be blocked ✏

no omemo

He added me and I accepted it,but I texted hime and he still couldn't see it?

fjklp

the only things I can think of are non-contact blocking and sometimes gajim will connect in a weird way where messages only flow one way

I would suggest restarting both chat clients

after you have both added each other as contacts, then restart

if that doesn't fix it, I'm out of ideas

for the sake of troubleshooting or just a workaround, I'd create a new account wherever and see if it works then

creating accounts is easy

he

Does mac Gajim1.8 not support otr?

fjklp

I don't think it does

omemo is the most common way of encrypting in xmpp

can you add me?

fjklp,

vagrant@danwin1210.de

fjklp,

vagrant: we have an OTR plugin, but it's probably broken on the freshest versions.

Last time I had ported it for 1.4 or so.

ok，thanks

Do creeps.im and danwin1210.de servers not communicate?

You would have to ask one of their sever admins

Hm creep.im has a broken direct TLS s2s

That can make problems

I'm trying to get XEP-0055 (Search) working between Gajim and Prosody. On service discovery, I can see "User Search" and the search button highlights when I select it. But when I try to press it, I get "Error while retrieving search form". Is that Gajim or the server having an issue?

open View -> XML Console

press the button

see what the server returns

if it look ok, start gajim with -v and look if gajim prints something to the debug log

I'm getting the form in the XML stream: <!-- Incoming 2023-09-17 9:26:39 AM (VA1DER) --> <iq xmlns="jabber:client" to="va1der@va1der.ca/RosWell" from="va1der.ca" id="6a1e75f6-f711-453b-a5a1-eaa7126dc978" type="result"> <query xmlns="jabber:iq:search"> <instructions>Fill in one or more fields to search for any matching Jabber users.</instructions> <first /> <last /> <nick /> <email /> </query> </iq>

Sec...

you need to look at the debug logs then

The debug logs look good: 2023-09-17 09:30:36 (I) gajim.c.m.search | (va1der.ca) Request search fields from va1der.ca ... 2023-09-17 09:30:36 (I) gajim.c.m.search | (va1der.ca) Received search fields from va1der.ca 2023-09-17 09:30:36 (D) gajim.c.ged | Raise event: search-form-received

if not event.is_dataform

Gajim only supports dataforms

so look into if you server can provide a dataform instead of these basic query fields

Hey guys quick question; how do I edit a message on Gajim for Linux? It seems fairly different from the windows client

grengar, you can ctrl+up arrow to edit last message

https://xmpp.volatile.bz:5281/upload/GSFeWf2tTMg0tj9t23tY87X2/230917.131109.png

Is there a way to do it within the GUI or with the mouse

can someone clue me into what im looking at here? i already saw that gajim supposedly integrates search.jabber.network from https://www.mail-archive.com/commits@gajim.org/msg09183.html but i'm still curious what adding this and hitting "new message" even does

grengar, i had to check if the "..." button next to your last message showed an "edit" item and it does, try that

>but i'm still curious basically im poking around :p

(and yes i found the way to actually search channels from that service)

This is a service discovery window, this is a generic way to show methods from services

You need to ask the service what that button does

ah so basically send an email to the search.jabber.network admin

fair enough

> (and yes i found the way to actually search channels from that service) You mean the global search in the start chat Dialog ?

yeah

Yes that's what gajim implements ✏

cool cool

How can I enable MAM with the Gajim client? My server should support MAM, but the admin told me I have to enable it my self with the client.

accounts -> advanced -> archiving preferneces

set it to always

lovetox, thanks. The list below XMPP Adresses is empty there. I will add my username there.

or is it sufficient to set it to always on top and leave the list empty below?

no

the list should be empty

simply set the dropdown to always

what does the blocking list do? how is it supposed to be used? ✏

it lists the contacts you have blocked

whats unclear? it says XMPP Address and when you click the +, it gives you an example

considering that the majority of xmpp communication involves people whose jids are unknown to me, it leaves me with unsure how it's used

but I think I understand

you know when you know; ive had annoying people add me and refuse to go away when i ask

fjklp, you dont need this dialog to block people if this is what you think

you simply press the chat menu, and select block contact

yeah, I see that you can do it from a direct chat window. Then the blocking list window makes a bit more sense to see a list of blocked contacts. ✏

> considering that the majority of xmpp communication involves people whose jids are unknown to me, it leaves me with unsure how it's used That is only for the minority in these public groups the case. I bet most communications involves people whose jids are known ↺

well we "know" the jids here insofar that i can block gajim@conference.gajim.org/opal because shes annoying and wont shut up

(ive mainly used this form to mute bots that are just noise to me)

Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _python-nbxmpp_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp >: *5a9e65af* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/5a9e65af7c76e038daa42dff09b9cdb529b87939 > imprv: JID: Improve compliance when generating IRIs *4ff3d8ec* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/-/commit/4ff3d8eccf8a934c74e44578b44c56a1c4b59542 > feat: JID: Add JID.from_iri()

Hi there, I'd like to create a fork of gajim in gitlab. Can someone give me the rights to do that?

ebertus, should work now

lovetox, many thanks

Is there any good reason why gajim is capable of blocking direct messages via muc when a jid is manually entered but there is no button to block a user from said chat window?

probably overlooked would be my guess

I'll make an issue if that's alright

for sure

fjklp, please make sure there isn't one aleady (I have a strong feeling)

https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/issues/10178 This issue might qualify as covering it but it doesn't specify if it means messages in a muc or direct messages via muc

I just noticed that it's possible to do manually already but there is no button to simplify adding the jid

fjklp, this is not overlooked

this is intended

the blocking XEP is not for MUC, thats why its not mentioned in the XEP at all

it has various complicated drawbacks to block MUC users, which are not intuitive to users, thats why we dont do it

what you can get is a ignore functionality

and for that this issue exists

I was treating 'ignoring' and 'blocking' as synonyms. I'll be more careful.

the difference may be very subtle to a user

basically blocking would mean something server side

and ignoring means something clientside