Gajim - 2023-08-23


  1. fjklp

    is anyone else experiencing malfunctions with unread notifications from gnome-shell-extension-appindicator ?

  2. fjklp

    or whatever your indicator is?

  3. fjklp

    mine sometimes gets stuck in the unread notification state and other times does not indicate unread messages

  4. cal0pteryx

    astanad: you would need to install it through msys. But why would you need to install it in the first place? Gajim comes with nbxmpp bundled

  5. nicoco

    Is there a way to make gajim put attachments in contact/MUC-specific folders? It would be pretty nice to allow browsing attachments with a specific contact with external tools.

  6. fjklp

    it doesn't look like there's a convenient way but it can probably be done

  7. fjklp

    it doesn't look like there's a convenient way but it can probably be done with a script

  8. fjklp

    looking at logs.db, this is where messages are stored and the only place I'm seeing referencing the filename

  9. nicoco

    Thanks! Don't you think having attachments in chat-specific subfolders would be a sane default? Browsing the attachments for a given conversation is very useful IMHO.

  10. lovetox

    Yes it's on the long list of things to do

  11. fjklp

    how does gajim know what files it has downloaded?

  12. fjklp

    how does gajim know what files it has downloaded and the file name?

  13. fjklp

    I see the download urls in logs.db but no reference to the actual filename

  14. Veronica

    How do I decrypt messages from before I logged in? My other session has the OMEMO keys and works fine from there.

  15. menel

    The same as signal it has perfect forward secrecy, and that means it isn't possible

  16. menel

    It is per client

  17. Veronica

    There's no workaround, such as moving the keys manually?

  18. Kris

    No, by design

  19. Kris

    If you want that you need to switch to Ox

  20. Kris

    (OpenPGP)

  21. Kris

    But I am not sure if Gajim supports that

  22. Kris

    And it is much weaker e2ee

  23. lissine

    There's a plugin for it

  24. menel

    Not even key moving would work. That's the whole point of forward secrecy. You would need to transfer the unencrypted database

  25. kurion

    what does this TODO in cache.py point to? `# TODO: Expire entries`

  26. Veronica

    > Not even key moving would work. That's the whole point of forward secrecy. > You would need to transfer the unencrypted database How do I do this? My other client is Conversations

  27. Veronica

    > what does this TODO in cache.py point to? > `# TODO: Expire entries` Sounds like it's possibly a planned feature of disappearing messages?

  28. menel

    I don't know of a tool that can do it. Someone would need to develop that. As far as I know there may be ideas to have a unified way to share these things, but it doesn't exist yet.

  29. lovetox

    fjklp, we build a hash over the url, and thats the filename

  30. Hiker

    My virus scanner tells me that Gajim-1.8.1-64bit has Malware, Win64.Trojan.Generic and it refuses to install it on Win10, 64bit.

  31. cal0pteryx

    Hiker, where did you download it from?

  32. cal0pteryx

    check the URL _precisely_

  33. Hiker

    Gajim.org

  34. cal0pteryx

    are you sure? please make sure

  35. Hiker

    https://gajim.org/downloads/1.8/Gajim-1.8.1-64bit.exe

  36. cal0pteryx

    upload it to virustotal and check

  37. cal0pteryx

    looks like a false alarm to me

  38. Hiker

    1 security vendor flagged this URL as malicious

  39. Hiker

    Xcitium Verdict Cloud Malware

  40. cal0pteryx

    yes. and all the others didn't

  41. cal0pteryx

    89 others

  42. Hiker

    My virus scanner, too.

  43. cal0pteryx

    Hiker, it's a false positive

  44. Hiker

    How do you know?

  45. cal0pteryx

    I'm out, sorry. Virus scanners have many false positives and I'm not the one to prove to you why _your_ virus scanner is most likely wrong

  46. cal0pteryx

    Please ask you vendor

  47. cal0pteryx

    Please ask your vendor

  48. opal

    >Win64.Trojan.Generic the trojan horse is the number of babes that will start messaging you when they find out you use xmpp

  49. opal

    might be a problem if youre unprepared

  50. opal

    Hiker, the source is open for gajim, youre free to build it yourself if you dont trust the exe installer

  51. opal

    thats all i can give you other than telling your virus scanner to ignore it

  52. opal

    there's a piece of data in the exe that looks *heuristically* that it might be a trojan horse, thats all your scanner is complaining about

  53. opal

    antivirus is fairly stupid

  54. opal

    ive been more worried about outdated software and targeted attacks than viruses

  55. Veronica

    Use Linux 🐧

  56. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    😒

  57. opal

    sorry Veronica linux gets detected as a virus

  58. cal0pteryx

    Gajim 1.8.1 has been released some days ago, and now we have a release post as well :) https://gajim.org/post/2023-08-08-gajim-1.8.1-released/

  59. XRevan86

    That does not sound timely.

  60. cal0pteryx

    We had some issues publishing that post, but now it's here 🎉

  61. Kris

    thanks!

  62. fjklp

    > fjklp, we build a hash over the url, and thats the filename full url? sha1? single round?

  63. lovetox

    is this important which sha algo?

  64. fjklp

    I'm trying to write a script that links to files by contact

  65. lovetox

    checkout get_image_paths()

  66. Veronica

    > sorry Veronica linux gets detected as a virus Which distro? Also I'm not surprised considering microshit wants you to keep using winglows

  67. astanad

    cal0pteryx, i want create an xmpp client with nbxmpp !! that"s why i want know how to install nbxmpp on windows !

  68. astanad

    cal0pteryx, sorry ! Gajim is awsome ( using it for 6 years) ! but i want creat a lightweight xmpp client not with all featues ! for personal use !

  69. fjklp

    thanks