Gajim - 2023-08-22

I have added a tagging system for contacts. Like when adding a contact, I can set some tags like friend, family, tokyo etc.

So I need a menu item in get_roster_menu that wil let me edit these tags in a form/dialog.

I added the menu item in menus.py

following `(_('_Details'), f'app.{account}-contact-info', value)`, I added `(_('_Edit tags…'), f'app.{account}-edit-tags', value),` ✏

added an entry in `_connect_actions` method in roster.py: `(f'{self._account}-edit-tags', self._on_edit_tags),`

but at runtime, an AssertionError is raised on line: `action = app.app.lookup_action(action_name)`

I think I need to add the methods details somewhere else too to make this {account} action notation work.

But I am having a hard time finding how to make this work. Please help.

I added an entry to ACCOUNT_ACTIONS constant: ` ('edit-nickname-and-tags', 's'),`

the menu appears but is greyed out

where does lookup_action look for an action?

Hi! Where is the correct format for omemo-sid-* QR codes specified? I'm wondering if the trust URI needs a "message" component: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/blob/master/gajim/common/modules/omemo.py#L658

kurion, you know that roster "groups" act as tags in XMPP ?

you can already set groups for each of your contacts

I think Daniel just made them up and everyone does what conversations does

cal0pteryx: I didn't know it.

I decided to implement a tagging system for contacts that is account agnostic and is searchable from start_chat dialog.

I am missing an all-including-roster so bad. (like in 1.3.x)

so I am turning the start_chat dialog into a _just_enough_ roster. ✏

that will have context menu for the ContactRows.

kurion: you could display roster groups as tags within StartChat easily

Good to know.

how to make the tags searchable? ✏

I guess will have to add something to get_search_text.

for now, I have implemented a PoC for the tagging system I was thinking of.

I have made changes so that roster menu for contacts appear when Gdk.KEY_Menu button is pressed on a ContactRow in start_chat.py ✏

I need to add a menu item to the roster menu to open a dialog that will let the user edit the tags/group of the contact easy and fast. ✏

this easy access is necessary for my blind friend.

I added the menu item I wanted and wrote a demo handler for that item

but the item appears greyed out in the roster menu.

previously seen AssertionError is not there anymore.

I am kinda sure that I am missing something in the mechanism of GAction usage of Gajim.

Could you please give me some hints why my new menu item is greyed out?

If I can fix it, it will be a good UX improvement for my friend (also me)

Element is a horrible client. I'd argue that one of the biggest XMPP advantages is its clients though. It's also kind of weird to say XMPP has a marketing or SEO problem since it's not a company. It has no marketing or SEO.

Xmpp needs a better web client even though I agree that Element while looking nicely is pretty bad in many usability aspects.

https://prose.org/ might fill that niche later this year though.

Kris, is Movim bad?

No but it's main focus is on the blogging aspect and self-hosting is a bit complicated.

Prose looks sleek. It's pretty new?

Still work in progress yes

Element has bad accessibility also.

I think conversejs is good, for non puwer users. With a lot of huge groups and many many contacts it's crowded and slow, but if that's not the case it's quite nice.

Q: Will Prose be usable as a 'normal' XMPP client? The screenshot or mockup displays things lilke 'team members' and such. So will it really be an alternative to ConverseJS or something complementary? ✏

menel, I think movim is better suited to non power users at this point.

it seems like a slack thing yeah meson

meson: not fully known, but it seems like it is supposed to function as a fully standards compliant xmpp client.

Team members is a thing in conversejs as well

Shared rosters

robertoo, Element is a fine client as far as web clients go. Lots of nice-to-have features like encryption, image/audio/video embeds including stickers and voice messages, Markdown and LaTeX rendering, voice/video calls including conference calls that aren't just Jitsi now.

There are replies and reactions, along with threads.

Its main downside is the lacklustre performance - both the client itself and the Matrix protocol sometimes.

But there's Element-Android, Element-Web and Element-Desktop (which is really just Element-Web). And all work to a reasonable degree.

re: markteing and SEO, I guess you can frame it as a lack of 'XMPP Evangelism'. Matrix is likely sliding down the same path now.

i have heard of encryption problems for years from element. In social networks I am in its like Kris said. The hype is gone and reality started to settle in. including what the community can do, element company wants, and network effects

It's only anecdotal, and I do sometimes see people in the Element channel having issues, but I've used Element every day for over 4 years and only had (minor) encryption problems two or three times.

Usually when you or your contact adds a new device, or the homeserver is struggling for some reason (the default homeserver isn't too great).

Gajim is getting there nicely though. Once audio/video works on Windows, there will be less and less reason to use Matrix/Element.

yeah agreed. if it has share your screen too then i dont have to use jitsi anymore either

Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *d6dc367d* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/commit/d6dc367db61a5e25e8c8592e1c84ab2e88e0eb2f > fix: Make it impossible to connect without config Fixes #11608

website is now up to date

The gajim icon for configure_encryption is a lock and the gajim icon for encryption_status is a shield I suggest to change it to configure_encryption=lock+toothwheel encryption_status=lock+modifier

what do you think? I am willing to prepare a pictogram, if needed

the MUC icon "encryption is not available" with orange "!" is great for example

(at least in my eyes ;-)

actually i think we dont need the shield icon anymore

it was previously used to open the key window

and because omemo was a plugin this was a separated window, but now its integrated in the contact info

hm but we have 2 other encryption plugins

i think the best way would be if these plugins extend the contact info, and add a page there, like omemo does

then we can get rid of the shield button

sounds good

Guys i tried to install nbxmpp library on windows using pip but i got an error with PyGOBject !! how can i fix it ?

iam using windows 10 with python last version !

I'm on Gajim 1.8.1. Is it just me or is it impossible to disable OMEMO after enabling it. When I click on the encryption icon it just brings up the OMEMO key dialog without an (obvious) way to disable. Am I missing something?

click on the lock icon

then disable

Clicking the icon just bring up the OMEMO configuration dialog.

If it makes a difference, I'm using a tiling window manager that gives the configuration dialog immediate focus.

There should be a lock and a shield. The shield brings up the OMEMO configuration. The lock allows you to disable OMEMO

Ah, OK, I was missing something obvious. Thanks!

No problem.