Gajim - 2023-08-03

Hi there, I selected mail, is this mail cash or cheque?

And Can I pay by monero?

I didn't see this option

Lastly, I need a EU number, but on jmp.chat website, the recommended one, like vonage.SGX and twillio SGX, would ask too much personal information when register? Could you PLEASE recommend a jmp.chat style EU number without KYC, many thanks

lastly, do Gajim can make phone call as well? Or after activate, I need to download another SIP app, thank you

cal0pteryx

Is there a way to play a sound when all of my accounts are logged in after starting Gajim? and also when any of my contacts become online?

I found Contact connected and disconnected in Manage Sounds dialog.

I tested with making my contact offline and online but these two sounds don't seem to work.

Message receiving sounds work though.

what might be the issue here?

https://fars.ee/sHVI

> https://fars.ee/sHVI how to fix?

Currently, if I want to organize my contacts into groups, the groups are made available under account specific rosters. Could you please give me some hints on how to implement a grouping mechanism that is account agnostic and how complicated might it be?

Welcome to workspaces

yes, I tried using workspaces as an alternate implementation of groups

but at a given moment, if I am in a chat with multiple people from different workspaces, I need to switch workspaces before I can use Ctrl+Tab to go to my desired chat.

I guess, that's okay and I can live with it.

How can I indicate which workspace a contact is in inside the Start/Join Chat dialog? And possibly sort the shown ContactRows grouped by workspaces in that dialog?

Actually, my blind friend will need to use the Start/Join chat dialog extensively (in place of a roster). So at least the grouping will be very beneficial for him.

liqsliu, sounds like some migration problem

you can delete logs.db if you dont need old messages

.local/share/gajim

kurion, i dont understand that need, if you open the start chat dialog, you want to start a chat with a particular person

you type some characters into the search bar, and select the contact of your choice

why would it matter in which workspace that conversation is currently

lovetox: yes, In order to keep the message record, I did not delete the archive, reinstalled a different version of gajim

you seem to miss a table

seems some old migration went wrong

from which version did you upgrade?

1.8 > 1.3 , I will try to install gajim of 1.8

yeah downgrades are not supported

1.8(archlinux) > 1.3(ubuntu)

it can sometimes work because we didnt change the database, but between these versions are years

But there is only an old version in the software source

I am making mods to the start/chat dialog so that he can use it as a somewhat functional roster because he is very used to using roster centric chat apps. So in the start chat contact list, if the contacts are grouped by workspaces/groups they are in, it will be closest to what he is used to already

I'm trying to download the latest version from the official website

liqsliu, you can always use the flatpak version from flathub

then you are independent of your os package repository

Oh hey liqsliu

I consulted him and he said sometimes the grouping comes in handy when he forgets the nick/jid of the contact he wants to talk to.

qy: 😂

then he can go to the group and navigate the list to pick the right one.

so then he goes to the workspace and goes through the chat list

anyway, of course you can try and get the workspace into the start chat dialog

but remember a chat has only a workspace if the chat is open

so not all contacts have a workspace

assigned

got it.

lovetox: How complicated and time-consuming do you think it could be to implement an account agnostic group system for the contacts?

I am thinking I'll need to go through Gtk.TreeView (which is not an easy-peasy thing) and the already implemented storage system.

looking forward to your suggestions.

its not worth it

let your friend live without it, you will see in the end he will not need it that bad

btw, i dont know of any client that has that

im sure your time is better spent on other things

Let me see.

is the remove contact action accessible from anywhere else other than the roster?

no

just to mention that the xmpp client the one of the best

It only remains audio and video call for windows client compatible with conversation app

great job

thanks