Gajim - 2023-07-18

btw just in case anyone else decides they want to work on it I prob wont be working on the latex plugin (I found it more useful just to render latex in some other program, since that works for all the applications I want to use, not just gajim)

fungus: thanks for the feedback

hi, I have a (probably) stupid question: would logging in over Tor (with the advanced settings/account settings proxy toggle), and then enabling the global Tor proxy, create a Tor-over-Tor scenario..?

is it safe to have both options simultaneously enabled?

Yes

It's just that there are operations which are not bound to an account

And for that there is the global proxy

why was gajim actually written in python?

So if I have Global Proxy set to TOR and don't tick the Advanced Settings for an account, will that account use TOR to log in and chat? ✏

cool, ty

lovetox: You previously answered "Yes" aquatarkus's question. Which question did your answer address? 'TOR-over-TOR' one or 'Is it safe' one?

I am trying to understand the behavior of Global proxy,

The second

tor-over-tor is pretty safe as well, if I remember correctly and *if* allowed by the exit node (which is highly unusual), just hella slow

lovetox: Thanks

If I have Global Proxy set to TOR and don't tick the Advanced Settings for an account, will that account use TOR to log in and chat?

yes

mjk: Tor-over-Tor is **NOT SAFE** at all: https://old.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/mlqdxo/gtn0lxh/ https://old.reddittorjg6rue252oqsxryoxengawnmo46qy4kyii5wtqnwfj4ooad.onion/r/TOR/comments/mlqdxo/gtn0lxh/ https://tor.stackexchange.com/q/427/

lovetox: Thanks for the clarification

firepenguin: okay, those seem to cover the case of a tor daemon connecting to the internet via a tor circuit. in retrospect, *that* is the scenario that should be called "tor-over-tor", not what I believe was being discussed here and to what I replied, namely, Gajim connecting to socks5://127.0.0.1:9050 through a tor circuit ✏

the latter is what happens when you run, say, `torsocks gajim` and use the Tor proxy preset within Gajim

Gajim tells me that the Prosody server has a certification error and it doesn't connect. But the cert is valid until August 15 and Conversations doesn't give that message.

Hiker: does the cert cover the domain you are using?

hannibal: Yes.

Gajim usually tells you what the error is

lovetox: undefined error

hm do you run a webserver on the main domain?

and what's the Gajim version

mjk: v1.8.0 on windows

lovetox: yes

mayhaps that windows installation doesn't have the necessary certs? just poking at guesses

I renewed the certificates and restarted the Prosody server - and Gajim connects without any error message... Bit strange but it works ;-)

Seems you didn't give prosody your latest certs ;)

The certs are valid until mid August. Gajim itself couldn't tell us which problem it found with "unknown error".

Since restarting the server helped, it seems that something was wrong there

"unknown error" is a bug in and of itself, I'd say. in glib or wherever

no good errors should go unpunished!