Gajim - 2023-07-08

Hi. code completion for pyGobject is not working for me in VSCode. I have `pygobject` and `pygobject-stubs` installed. Is there anything else I should install?

A few days ago, another person asked about completion here. But I cannot search that message due to only last few messages being shown in my client.

code completion for what exactly

pygobject is only for libs like GTK and GLib

you may need to install python support plugins in vs code

oh heres a real bug, when i "save as" an attachment in a chat, and a new message comes in, the file dialog closes on me

lovetox: yes I installed mspython

» code completion for what exactly Pressing Ctrl+space after `Gtk.Textview().` should show available methods of Textview class.

> oh heres a real bug, when i "save as" an attachment in a chat, and a new message comes in, the file dialog closes on me it doesn't require an incoming message, it's random

kurion: works fine for me. did you restart VSCode afterwards?

(using the python extension and pylance)

> works fine for me. did you restart VSCode afterwards? yes, after installing pygobject-stubs

how can I delete a MUC as owner?

Go to the muc settings one page has a bin symbol

lol, I think I had looked for this before and couldn't figure it out

I see the icon you refer to

maybe it could use a text description next to it instead of the tooltip

I think that would be good

fjklp, thank you that was well hidden

I agree, I think we should slap a label on that icon

maybe even make the icon red ✏

_We_ only need to open a merge request for that ;)

I've wondered if little merge requests might be more annoying than useful compared to just requesting it

did the dependencies on libraries change between 1.7.3 and 1.8.0?

Look at the changelog

fjklp: to me they are not. Especially if people recognize how easy contributing actually is :)

你们好

这是什么地方

2256449879: english please

where is here

where am i

what this app use for

its the first time i try to use this

https://share.conversations.im/2256449879/malp1Lp0lJwRE7YC/IMG_20230708_211611.jpg

Oh my Lenin!

Add me to contact! militiaman@suchat.org

Why do you ask here?

This app is not related to this room.

That is our Conversations fork. Nevermind please.

2256449879, xmpp:社会主义会议室@salas.suchat.org?join

😂️

> it doesn't require an incoming message, it's random odd fjklp that means i cant even offer to fix it :D

I looked in the gajim database. In the past also the change of status got saved in the database. Is there an option to enable this again. I'm interested in the messeges with kind 0,3,5.

I'm only interested in logging the data to the database. I'm not interested to view all data in gajim.

no

Well more than one accounts is completely broken

I cant block

and getting messaged abuse

lovetox: Would it be possible to add this again as an option in the ACE?

not without a convincing user story

How is the plugin “Anti Spam”, seems not working well?

yeah its not very good

Thank you.

> not without a convincing user story I'm admin of a muc. I had in the past problems to conntact accounts with changing user names. I don't want to block accounts imideately. When accounts change their nickname it is really hard to track accounts I warned before. Therefore I tried to write a program which should keep an eye on changing nicknames.

why do you bother with nicknames when you are an admin

you can see the real address of the user

lovetox: I can't see the jid from a message written a few days ago. When I click on the account it only shows muc@conference.xmpp.de/username. So I can't check the jid afterwards. I also tried to enhance the spam detection. I think it would be helpful to log also status. I think that the status of a bot behaves different then the status of a real user.

you are right, you cant currently see the real jid of a past message

but this is a gap i intend to close with the next version

if you have the real jid and can always get it, i see no reason for you to track nick changes

but if i think about it, even that can be done better in the future

with the next major version gajim will support occupant-id, and log it for every message, a occupant-id is a unique id assigned to a user, it does not change when the user changes nickname

as we log it in the database for every message, it would be trivial to do a look up, give me all nicks recorded for a occupant-id

> with the next major version gajim will support occupant-id, and log it for every message, a occupant-id is a unique id assigned to a user, it does not change when the user changes nickname Nice. What about logging the status to enhance spam detection? My idea was to calculate the probability for spam by using the time between joining and the first message (normally spam accounts post imideatly a message), the message itself, the Client, the time beeing online (mobile devices have more disconnects compared to a bot) and maybe a few more parameters.

why not do this on the server?

but it doesnt matter what you do, you will never catch someone joining from a unknown account a simply posting a spam message

or what i mean is preventing the spam message

but you have message moderation, and you can ban people

and if it gets to much work you can always set your channel moderated

I don't like to set my channel to moderated, but I want to check weather a person tries to rejoin with a new account. Its more about detecting people I blocked before then preventing obvious spam.

Make new account do email verification before they can post. That's going to discourage some legit users but oh well Another thing you can go is pipe all messages to a FALCON40B instance and ask it "Is this user spamming" if it says yes, autoban