Gajim - 2019-12-17


  1. sebastian good morning people :-) Just tried to add the nightly apt repository so i can checkout whats in the new gajim 1.1.x, because mint/ubuntu seem to be stuck on 1.0.x.... I just rolled back because i'm confused. when in install "gajim-nightly" i can not install "gajim-omemo" because gajim-omemo depends on gajim (not gajim-nightly). How do i resolve this? Can i use gajim-ngihtly with gajim-omemo somehow?
  2. sebastian good morning people :-) Just tried to add the nightly apt repository so i can checkout whats in the new gajim 1.1.x, because mint/ubuntu seem to be stuck on 1.0.x.... I just rolled back because i'm confused. when I install "gajim-nightly" i can not install "gajim-omemo" because gajim-omemo depends on gajim (not gajim-nightly). How do i resolve this? Can i use gajim-ngihtly with gajim-omemo somehow?
  3. wurstsalat sebastian: there is no package version for gajim-omemo on nightly I think. you'd have go install omemo+dependencied manually.
  4. sebastian wurstsalat, okay... i did not yet try to install gajim-pluginmanager... does it depend on gajim too? or is it happy to find gajim-nightly?
  5. wurstsalat ah I see you want to try 1.1.3. okay so there are packages, just not on that ubuntu/mint release. let me check how this looks in gajim's repo
  6. wurstsalat hm, no plugin packages that I can see. but you can install the plugin installer manually
  7. wurstsalat https://ftp.gajim.org/plugins_1.1_zip/
  8. sebastian how do i manually install the plugininstaller? where do i need to extract that zip file to?
  9. sebastian ahhh
  10. sebastian sorry...
  11. sebastian okay... i thought the plugininstaller == pluginmanager
  12. sebastian but that is not the case
  13. sebastian okay, i'll be back in a few minutes with 1.1.3 maybe ;)
  14. sebastian soo... that worked almost perfectly smooth :)
  15. bot Daniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/180 >: [length_notifier] Add character counter
  16. sebastian one more tiny question: how often/frequently is the stable-nightly built?
  17. wurstsalat sebastian, nightly, I guess. but there were no updates to the 1.1 branch since 1.1.3 release (and there probably won't any until 1.2)
  18. sebastian okay, thanks :)
  19. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/181 >: Spelling fixes in various manifest.ini files
  20. Jens Hi! I use gajim 0.16.6 on Devuan and a mailbox.org accout. If I want to upload an image, I get [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:661). Any hints?
  21. wurstsalat Jens, yes, your server does not offer a valid ssl cert
  22. Jens wurstsalat, How do I import the certificate?
  23. Jens How do I show the certificate? Is it the same as in the browser?
  24. wurstsalat Jens, I don't know, Gajim 0.16.6 is very old
  25. Jens Yes, that's my problem, because I want a systemd-free OS...
  26. asterix I could maybe copy debacle packages and create nightly packages for plugins ...
  27. debacle asterix, just git clone from https://salsa.debian.org/xmpp-team/gajim/ and checkout the debian/master branch
  28. debacle or for plugins e.g. https://salsa.debian.org/xmpp-team/gajim-omemo/ etc.
  29. debacle wurstsalat, are you aware of the proto-XEP for counting characters? https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/charcount.html Just in case... :-)
  30. wurstsalat debacle: how do I know how twitter/mastodon counts? on top of that, there is a gateway in-between
  31. Zash everyone will be counting in a different way of course
  32. debacle wurstsalat, you can't know. It depends on encodings etc. You can only follow the XEP. Or not :-)
  33. debacle But if we had consistency at least in the XMPP world, that would be nice. Or confusing to users, because they are not used to consistency in XMPP.
  34. wurstsalat > "Some programming languages include a string type that operates directly on Unicode code points. If these types are used, offset numbers can be used as-is in string operations. Popular examples of such programming languages are Python and Haskell" so doing len(string) is sufficient?
  35. debacle To me it sounds good.
  36. Zash Easy to count UTF-8-encoded strings too
  37. lovetox yeah wurstsalat this whole xep results in len(string) for python
  38. lovetox so very easy
  39. lovetox you would have to put in extra work to count wrongly
  40. Zash `utf8.len(s)` in Lua 🙂
  41. wurstsalat nice, then it's done correctly for the Message Length Notifier plugin