botDaniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9892 >:
#9892: < confusing Quota behaviour (http-upload) >
JG Conversationshello. when i login in gajim and try to recover server messages it says "his message was encrypted with OMEMO and could not be decrypted"
JG Conversationsany help please. i am using gajim 1.1.3 in windows 7.
wurstsalatJG Conversations, look at the fingerprints, are they all trusted? same for your contact
JG Conversationswurstsalat, pardon. i really do not know where to look for the fingerprints. I guess i should read gajim docs first....
wurstsalatto the right of the message input, there is a shield icon
JG Conversationsunable to locate, can i paste screen shot in the https://paste.gajim.org ?
lovetoxbeside the encryption symbol
lovetoxyou need to activate encryption for the chat to see it
JG Conversationsthe three bars?
lovetoxgo to the chat where you receive those messages
lovetoxactivate encryption
JG Conversationsthere is an orange exclamatory mark in the encrption icon. it can't be clicked.
lovetoxthen your omemo plugin is probably not working
lovetoxor disabled
lovetoxlook at the plugins
JG Conversationschecking
JG Conversationsi didn't side loaded the plugin. just installed and is running
lovetoxdo you see the omemo plugin and its activated?
lovetoxwhat does it mean to recover server messages
lovetoxyou cant recover old omemo messages
JG Conversationsi do when login in conversejs.org
lovetoxagain what do you mean with recovering
lovetoxreceiving messages that were sent while you were offline, is not a recovery
lovetoxthe word recovery means you had the message once, lost it, and want to get it again
JG Conversationsi meant i exchanged messages with my friends last night on mobiles; now i want to see them again
JG Conversationsthey are visible at conversejs.org
lovetoxfirst step would be to install the omemo plugin
JG Conversationsbut when i try to see them again here it says "his message was encrypted with OMEMO and could not be decrypted"
JG Conversationslovetox, i installed. do i need to restart the gajim ?
lovetoxno normally not
JG Conversationsstill same message is shown "his message was encrypted with OMEMO and could not be decrypted"
lovetoxbut thats to late, your contact needs to encrypt that message for your gajim device, if the gajim device was not setup properly before the messages are now lost
JG Conversationsi think i need to re-login
lovetoxno the messages are lost for your device
JG Conversationslovetox, oh.
JG Conversationsokay
lovetoxbut it should work for the future, if your omemo plugin is now working
JG Conversationsthanks lovetox wurstsalat !
JG Conversationsthanks again !!
JG Conversationsi am trying to switch to xmpp. is there any easy-to-understand tutorial ?
JG Conversationstried xmpp wiki but it is huge........
lovetoxnope, but you can ask here
JG Conversationslovetox, i can ask here about xmpp ?
lovetoxyes
JG Conversationslovetox, thanks !
DebXWoodyHi. What is the Sync Schwellwert (Sync Threshold) setting? I didn't find information about it.
wurstsalatDebXWoody, it's about how many days of MAM messages are retrieved from the server
lovetoxwhen joining a groupchat
lovetoxor how much time back you want to sync to your client, with other words
DebXWoodyOK, but if I close the tab and reopen. There is no message. Is there a setting to fetch and display always x messages from MAM?
wurstsalatDebXWoody, they are displayed in your history though
lovetoxCTRL + H
wurstsalatDebXWoody, they are not displayed in the chat window if you reopen it (atm)
DebXWoodywurstsalat: OK, thanks.
JG Conversationsindividual messages can be encrypted. can group messages also?
wurstsalatJG Conversations: yes
JG Conversationsi could enable OMEMO in one to one chats but in group chats MUM like this, the encryption icon is grayed out
JG Conversations*MUC
DebXWoodyJG Conversations: Is is just possible when it is not an anonymous MUC.
JG ConversationsDebXWoody, you mean it is possible in anonymous MUC?
DebXWoodyJG Conversations: You can just encrypt data, if you know the person. In a anonymous muc it is not possible.
JG Conversationsgot it
JG ConversationsHow can i get the list of my own resources and the fingerprints?
JG ConversationsAlso how do i identify them like which one is browser's, which one is Android's, which one is Gajim's. Because i use same JID at home and work
lovetoxshild button in any chat
lovetoxyou can only identify them by the fingerprint
JG Conversationsi can see THEIR fingerprints by shield button
JG Conversationsbut how can i see my OWN Fingerprints
DebXWoodyJG Conversations: Plugin OMEMO Settings
JG Conversationslet me try install OMEMO Settings
lovetoxNo they should be in the same view
lovetoxlook for your own jid
lovetoxif there is none, there are no other devices known
DebXWoodyIn the Plugin are the device IDs. The FP are displayed in shield like lovetox described
JG Conversationsgot them
JG Conversationsit shows i have 4 fingerprints (or device IDs). And it shows fingerprint ot current device ID.
JG ConversationsLike my current device ID is 120475899
JG Conversationsthanks. I have four devices- Gajim, Conversations, Browser 1, Browser 2. I want to remove Browser 1 and Browser 2. How can i identify which one is which?
lovetoxyou look at the browser what fingerprint it has
JG Conversationsthese are the device IDs 1588091758, 1204275899, 237, 1156044174
lovetoxforget the device ids, they dont help you no client shows them
lovetoxyou can look at a client what fingerprint it has, thats all you can do
lovetoxand if you dont want to drown in fingerprints i suggest not to use omemo with the browser
lovetoxif will generate many fingerprints
JG Conversationsyes....... true..
anotheragencyIf I understand correctly, I think that is what the resource tag is for. If you add yourself as a contact maybe you will see it?
lovetoxno anotheragency
lovetoxresource is nothing permanent, a resource can change on every connect
JG ConversationsContact is always one; devices like wired connection, wifi, browser, clients generate different resources
JG ConversationsThis is the format
JG Conversationsusername@server.org/resource
JG ConversationsThis picture explains it https://www.blikoontech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/xmpp_addressing.png
Link Mauvelovetox, do you already do this? https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/854/files
botDaniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/407 >:
Open 1:1 chat instead of private message when doubleclicking a participant in a non-anonymous group chat
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 7 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >:
https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/3a629c35-f0ca-4ded-b9da-923906f9e13f
stpHi, I asked yesterday about Gajim in mobile environments. I've now looked up what all those years ago was cited as the necessary XEP for reliablity in mobile environments and it's XEP-0198. I then was out that Gajim supports it :-) This has now made me much more interested in something like a Pinephone or another device with a Linux ROM.
lovetoxi can only tell you now, Gajim is not made for a Phone, and it will not be adapted for a Phone
ZashMight get away with "Tablet" 😛
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >:
*36ecf673* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/36ecf673212775ac3578bec48e2d4b80009bbb04 >
Remove unused method
wurstsalatThese register/unregister changes from today do look useful :)