concertoUh, what happened to switching tabs with Alt-1/2/etc?
lovetoxremoved it for now
lovetoxmakes not much sense to me as you can have more than 9 tabs
lovetoxAlt + arrow left/right
concerto 😭
lovetoxwe move in a direction where tabs will sort depending on activity, where you can have favourites that are always on top etc
lovetoxif we have all that we can look into if it makes sense to have shortcuts for favorites
EmleyMoorIs there anything that can be done to make Gajim work well with large rosters on low spec machines? All XMPP clients play up to some extent, if I log in to my account with the Facebook transport active
lovetoxhm, maybe disable avatars in roster
lovetoxdont use any plugins that do stuff with the roster
lovetoxother than that no
lovetoxmaybe dont use the roster as much?
lovetoxuse one window mode and hide it
EmleyMoorlovetox, It's not "using" the roster, it's its mere existence
lovetoxyes so hide it and see if that makes it better
lovetoxin one window mode, you have the option in View -> Show Roster
EmleyMoorI'm getting the trouble even in clients that do not *use* a roster. I will nevertheless try what you say but I think it's likely to make no difference
asterixEven if roster isn't shown, I think it's still drawn
EmleyMoorasterix, my impression exactly
lovetoxat what point do you have problems?
lovetoxat startup?
lovetoxabout how many contacts are we talking
EmleyMoorWithin a few minutes of startup. Several hundred
lovetoxbut after the initial lag, it works fine?
EmleyMoorIn Gajim's case, this is already diagnosed. I am looking for a way round it.
EmleyMoorNo, it works coarse. Because it never completes the bookmarks it never connects to some of my group chats. Other clients bounce
lovetoxdo all facebook contacts always show as online?
lovetoxor are there offline ones
EmleyMoorlovetox, there are plenty both ways
lovetoxthen you could try and activiate in the roster, only show online contacts
lovetoxthis should increase the performance
lovetoxim not sure what the problem is
EmleyMoorIt's roster *drawing* that's causing the problem, not roster anything-elseing
lovetoxthats why i suggest to activate options that roster does not draw as much contacts
lovetoxfurther in preferences under roster appearance
lovetoxeverything should be unchecked
EmleyMoorlovetox, It always draws the whole roster
lovetoxim not sure what you mean by that, if we set the option to *dont* show offline contacts
EmleyMoorWell, actually. it's what happens immediately after it's drawn, and it's not anything that can be switcrhed off
EmleyMoorIt's not *showing* that is the problem
lovetoxthey are obviously not drawn
lovetoxelse they would show
EmleyMoorNot if they're set not to show, they won't.
lovetoxyeah so less drawing more performance
EmleyMoorYoeu can't draw less. It's all or nothing.
lovetoxwhy?
lovetoxim not sure how you come to that conclusion
EmleyMoorBecause that's the way the protocol works
lovetoxyou talking not much sense, the xmpp protocol has nothing to do with what we show in the roster
lovetoxbut i have now other things to do, you ask for help, but you seem to know exactly how everything works anyway
EmleyMoorThis is not a "show in" issue. This is a mere "possible live entries in the roster exist" issue
lovetoxthe issue is you dont get your bookmarks
EmleyMoorlovetox, in Gajim's case I've already had this diagnosed. I need a cure, not a diagnostic.
lovetoxthe problem is, UI thread maybe blocks
lovetoxsolution is, less UI work
EmleyMoorNo, solution is more forgiving of my hardware on the part of Gajim
EmleyMoorspectrum2's support guys say this has to do with the huge amount of present requests... they've seen it before
lovetoxbut its not huge, if you have 500 contacts there are 500 presence stanzas
lovetoxa stanza has maybe 500 bytes
lovetoxthat times 500 is 250 kb
lovetoxon a normal connection this is a matter of seconds
EmleyMoorBut it's too huge for my laptop to cope with
lovetoxyes the UI drawing of these stanzas takes a lot more time
lovetoxbut this has nothing to do with the protocol, and can be dealt with
EmleyMoorIt's not merely taking time, it's *breaking*
lovetoxyes, so did you try disabling the options i told you?
EmleyMoorI would have to install gajim first
lovetoxin the far future i want to move away from disaplying the roster as the main window
lovetoxso this would probably solve this issue
lovetoxbut nothing short term, other than disabling all the things i wrote above
botSelwyn James created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9780 >:
#9780: < Bug Report >
EmleyMoorIt's not, I repeat *not*, to do with the *displaying* of the roster. On that fact I would bet my shirt!
lovetoxwhy?
lovetoxas i said above, 250kb downloading from a server is even no problem on VERY old machines
EmleyMoorBecauso it's affecting a client that *does not display* a roster, too
lovetoxwhat client is that?
lovetoxmaybe you can open the xml console at start, and see how long it takes to receive the roster
lovetoxor maybe send me a debug log from a start
lovetoxso i can look whats up
lovetoxmaybe the server breaks the connection after X unaknowledged stanzas by Gajim
lovetoxat least this could be solved by increasing the threshold of the server
lovetoxi can take a look at a debug log
lovetoxotherwise i dont feel like continuing speculating what the problem is
EmleyMoorI am prepared to try all this when time permits... So I will be back then
lovetoxbut yes i know of problems when servers have to send really much
lovetoxandrey.g, can tell you storys about it
lovetoxthis could also be this problem, that the connection simply breaks
lovetoxand we end up in some reconnect/break cycle where we lose the bookmarks
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >:
*6a116676* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/6a11667681b40f09eedecbe0cff3b5c913d4ccfb >
Muclumbus: Use HTTP API for requests
- HTTP is anonymous
- Works with servers that have s2s disabled
- Add ACE setting to switch between http and iq API
lovetoxandy, ^
andylovetox, i'm here ;)
andyoh
andy:)
andynice
andyI will check it when I will back to work from holidays
andythx
andylovetox, probably i found another bug :P
When I delete contact on instance Gajim at work and back home, that contact was still visible in Gajim at home. Restarting Gajim fix it.
lovetoxmaybe there was a chat open with that contact?
andynope.
andyI dont close my laptop (sleep mode) and Gajim is opened as well
andylovetox, updated python-nbxmpp to version from git and now I've get this: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/deb29cd1-f33b-4116-88c3-16d36f95df98
lovetoxyou should mention that maybe to the package maintainer
andysearching is working, but after get result Gajim throw this error: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/9ac48dda-84c0-4042-9a3e-360c8f6d50c3
lovetoxyes i fixed that already i push in a minute
andy:)
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 3 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/831cc892-508c-4fcc-ab44-942b5e467d44
lovetoxthere you go
andybtw, I have made some fixes for polish translation some time ago, and dont still missing it in Gajim. I mus manually get them?
andybtw, I have made some fixes for polish translation some time ago, and still missing it in Gajim. I mus manually get them?
andybtw, I have made some fixes for polish translation some time ago, and still missing it in Gajim. I must manually get them?
lovetoxyou mean via translate.gajim.org?
andyyep
lovetoxyou have to download the po file here https://translate.gajim.org/export/?path=/pl/gajim/
lovetoxload it into poedit
lovetoxsave it as compiled .mo file
andyah ok.
lovetoxand put that into .local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES
lovetoxand it should be namend gajim.mo
lovetoxwe only merge translations into master branch from time to time
lovetoxbut mostly before a release
andyok
EmleyMoorlovetox, what do you need by way of logs
lovetoxstart gajim with -v and just record a log for i dont know 20 seconds or so
EmleyMoorUnbelievably I seem to have had a "lucky" work this time
EmleyMoorI do hovewer have one non-proceeding Facebook group chat
EmleyMoorI have a log, start to disconnect... Will shut off Facebook and connect from that machine to send it
EmleyMoorOK, what do I do with this log?
lovetox send it to me in a private message
meazI don't know if I'm the right place to ask that, but since I upgraded from Stretch to Buster, I don't have any notifications anymore on my Desktop Environnment. Any idea?