Gajim - 2019-04-27


  1. ivucica x: yes.
  2. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9689 >: #9689: < AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_child' >
  3. Major Hello everyone, I have a problem with installing custom icons, they just don't appear anywhere in gajim, even in settings
  4. Major https://github.com/vinzv/gajarc
  5. Major Maybe there is a new way to do this?
  6. Major Oh, and yeah, my version is 1.1.2, I'm using GNU+Linux
  7. lovetox yeah there is a new way
  8. x wassup
  9. lovetox you have to pretext every icon with your desired theme name
  10. lovetox so myname-closed.png
  11. Major lovetox‎, where do I put my icons, in /usr/share/gajim/data/iconsets/?
  12. Major lovetox‎, where do I put my icons, in /usr/share/gajim/data/iconsets?
  13. lovetox no, under .local/share/gajim/iconsets
  14. lovetox put a folder "mytheme" in there
  15. lovetox and in this folder the files called "mytheme-iconname"
  16. Major Ok, thanks, will try that in next hour
  17. lovetox then go to preferences -> design and look if they show up
  18. x is there a repo of different gajim themes?
  19. lovetox no x
  20. lovetox Major, and loose the size folders
  21. lovetox and only put svgs in the folder
  22. Major lovetox‎, only svg now supported?
  23. x we need to make a community repo of different themes, i really cbf to make my own
  24. x unless im contributing
  25. lovetox we have a wiki, if you do one i can put it on there
  26. lovetox https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/wikis/home
  27. x i just spent 4 hours trying to use dkim on my mail server, and utterly failed.
  28. x oh yeah, i'll take a peek right now
  29. x anyways, apparently using opendkim with postfix is extremely different when using multiple sub domains -.-
  30. lovetox Major, no, but svgs allows gajim to scale the icon to whatever it wants
  31. lovetox and you need it for hidpi displays
  32. Major Oh. ok, thanks
  33. raver x‎, yep mailserver config is hard.. my stack is postfix multi domain with (sadly mysql not postgresql) db and opendkim and dmarc enabled. I remember adding a table and fiddling with the queries....
  34. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 4 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/6dc9e620-cead-4d4b-b90e-428fc131be11
  35. bot Philipp Hörist closed a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/385 >: Fix link handler in MUC subject
  36. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9630 >: #9630: < Click on link in subject raises UnboundLocalError: local variable 'command' referenced before assignment >
  37. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *a50cedaa* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/a50cedaa6b6439d86db2a6c2281c50c5484d1464 > Move log message
  38. Evert quick question: is XEP-0391: Jingle Encrypted Transports on the radar? currently file transfers are unencrypted, right?
  39. lovetox jingle filetransfers yes except when they are gajim to gajim
  40. sergio Hello guys! Somebody knows how to install appindicator plugin on fedora?
  41. Evert lovetox: so gajim to gajim jingle file transfers are encrypted? tls?
  42. asterix There are many ways to send files HTTP uploads are encrypted is you use À Omemo Jingle Gajim 2 Gajim is encrypted
  43. lovetox sergio, whats the problem?
  44. Major Is there are any possible in encrypting jingle at all?
  45. lovetox yes with tls
  46. Evert asterix: thanks
  47. lovetox of course Major
  48. Major I mean theoretically
  49. Evert lovetox: cool.
  50. lovetox also practically
  51. Major lovetox‎, oh, I mean with OMEMO
  52. lovetox yes also that
  53. Major Forgot mention it
  54. Major Wow, nice
  55. sergio lovetox: seems appindicator plugins needs a dependency girl...appindicator3.01. I don't find this package for fedora
  56. Major Does Jingle works like p2p or it can also work like federated? I mean client1-server1-server2-client2
  57. Major Sorry for stupid questions
  58. lovetox its usually p2p
  59. Major lovetox‎, but can it work as I said?
  60. lovetox jingle is only a negotiation protocol
  61. lovetox it makes not much sense to make a filetransfer over 2 servers
  62. lovetox if you can just transfer it p2p
  63. lovetox but everything is possible, but there is no specification for it
  64. asterix IBB does that, but it's terribly slow
  65. MattJ iirc someone was working on a component that did Jingle on the user's behalf
  66. Major Well this is strange for xmpp I think. The idea of xmpp for me is in federation
  67. asterix and consume a lot of resources for servers
  68. MattJ Major, the signalling obviously is federated, you can send files to remote users just fine
  69. Major Oh, and yeah, p2p would be inefficient in group calls
  70. MattJ So that's when you use HTTP upload
  71. lovetox sergio, dont know what the package is called on fedora
  72. Evert feature request: show whether fingle filetransfer is encrypted (tls | omemo) or not in the file transfer dialog. OR maybe some option to pop up a confirmation dialog if an UNencrypted file transfer starts.
  73. lovetox but search for libindicator
  74. Major sergio‎, you can try use repology
  75. Evert and yes for group chats the http upload should be the default (only?) choice
  76. lovetox do you see another?
  77. Major Evert‎, http upload can sometimes deanonimize you which is sad
  78. MattJ Jingle sends all your IP addresses to the other party
  79. Major If it would transfer from server to server and then to you, it would be much better in this case
  80. Major MattJ‎, yeah, I know, that's why I'm asking about "client1-server1-server2-client2"
  81. MattJ Each client could choose to just reveal its server's proxy instead of its real IPs, sure
  82. Evert Major: agreed. http upload is not much secure, also stores stuff in a central location (webserver) outside of the xmpp world. don't like it that much but realistic options are limited at the mometn
  83. lovetox why would it matter if i transfer a file via http or jingle to a server
  84. lovetox makes zero difference
  85. lovetox its actually exactly the same, just the negotiation is a bit different
  86. Major lovetox‎, because your IP can be easily leaked if you don't know what is proxy
  87. Evert I would love some xmpp component for file storage, which could accept incoming file transfers on behalf of users and MUCs (group chats). would make incoming files available across multiple devices, could make use of proxy, could be secured. but it's not there (yet).
  88. MattJ I'm pretty sure it is, or is being worked on
  89. Major Imagine then I put your IP into this https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/ and would now that you downloaded porn sometimes
  90. MattJ But I can't remember who
  91. Major That's will be bad :D
  92. lovetox Major, i dont see how this is relevant to the point
  93. lovetox please tell me how you transfer a file to an entity without revealing your ip?
  94. Major lovetox‎, well I tried to say that knowing your IP address could be harmful for you
  95. Major Like in this way
  96. lovetox but it has nothing to do with http or jingle
  97. raver lovetox‎, ...proxy?
  98. Evert i was a sysadmin for years... when not finding porn on (male) user profiles i grew suspect ;-) sometimes a added explicit desktop wallpapers in advance, before the stupid guys went to the bad sites. also i needed them to be honest about their stupid browsing behaviours. (it was a small shop)
  99. raver ssh tunnel... but offtopic anyway :)
  100. lovetox a proxy works for all connections
  101. Evert i agree that IP privacy has nothing to do with jingle vs http; one uses TOR or maybe I2P for that
  102. lovetox it does not matter if you negotiated it via http or jingle
  103. Major Not every people know about TOR and I2P
  104. lovetox if you dont use a proxy, there is no way to hide your ip
  105. Evert Major: and so? most users don't care, leaking their IP to all websites they visit. it is nog a xmpp / gajim problem but a problem of the network layer
  106. Major lovetox‎, why? If file transfers would go from client to server and then to your server and then only to other client, there would be no problem
  107. Major Sorry for bad English
  108. lovetox of course the server knows your ip
  109. Evert file transfers are p2p for a reason; huge files would put a high load on servers
  110. Evert for email, which is not realtime but asynchronous, queued communications, even there often there is an attachment / total size limit (e.g. 50 MB) while with p2p jingle transfers, there is no limit needed
  111. Major lovetox‎, server most of the time doesn't care who are you, but client sometimes does
  112. lovetox then use httpupload
  113. Major Evert‎, yeah, that's true, but I think its worth it
  114. Major lovetox‎, that's what I'm saying, you can use your own server to deanonimize people
  115. Evert yes, agree with lovetox, and already i said httpupload should be the only choice for group chat; when you go one on one, there is already some trust established (and still you can use httpupload instead of jingle)
  116. lovetox no, httpupload is a connection between your server and your client
  117. lovetox or you mean if other people download the file?
  118. sergio Major: thanks. I will take a look
  119. lovetox if they care about privacy they use a proxy
  120. Evert proxy or TOR
  121. lovetox if not its really not your business to look out for other people and where they download stuff
  122. Major Not everyone knows about proxy
  123. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: *e7ac1ccf* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/e7ac1ccf4c8a17de98ecd04e80d503d7559e0a3b > [omemo] Adapt to link handler changes in Gajim *b166a388* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/b166a388cc05b14fe00821f0108bd7120f78a090 > [omemo] Update manifest.ini & CHANGELOG
  124. bot Philipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/422 >: RosterWindow: Enhance blocking of contacts
  125. Evert If a more experienced Gajim dev can have a look at my code, that would be nice :-) I need feedback before I'm adding it to git and/or write another plugin. https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/417
  126. lovetox add a merge request then i can comment on the code
  127. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *ba1f88a0* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/ba1f88a006909856d94ea9f827678b25cc062a73 > RosterWindow: Remove blocked contacts from contact list if not in roster When blocking a contact which is not in the roster, the contact is removed and the ChatControl is closed (if any).
  128. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8874 >: #8874: < Nice looking UI for showing blocked users >
  129. bot Philipp Hörist merged a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/422 >: RosterWindow: Enhance blocking of contacts
  130. bot Philipp Hörist closed a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/429 >: Remove type attribute of mam request
  131. bot Philipp Hörist closed a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/313 >: WIP: Rework Contact Info Dialog
  132. bot Philipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/407 >: Open 1:1 chat instead of private message when doubleclicking a participant in a non-anonymous group chat
  133. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: *d9b146ee* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/d9b146ee35745ffc4cf5e34ee64bebf2e8e76a8a > [preview] Use new open_uri method to open links
  134. bot Philipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/128 >: [preview] Add Open Folder menu item , fix bugs
  135. Evert set up an account and ssh key; cannot fork gajim-plugins; requested access.
  136. lovetox should work now
  137. Evert ineed. thanks!
  138. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 4 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/b6a35ebd-3aba-40a2-b2ec-30a38edc508d
  139. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/323 >: #323: < Open/Download of encrypted files: Remove obsolete message box >
  140. bot Philipp Hörist merged a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/128 >: [preview] Add Open Folder menu item , fix bugs
  141. bot Evert Mouw proposed a new merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/129 >: New plugin: psychic
  142. track41 está activa la sala Joya?
  143. track41 sorry my mistake
  144. sergio I didn't find the gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1 equivalent for fedora on repology.org 😞️
  145. sergio Do you guys that are using gnome, are you using gajim wihtout the tray icon?
  146. Major sergio‎, found in internet this >It appears that Fedora package the GIR stuff in with the associated library, so there are no separate gir1.2-* packages. This seems to be the case for libnotify.
  147. Major https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?283488-RPM-equivalent-packages-to-DEBs
  148. Major sergio‎, yep, it is libappindicator in fedora, try install this
  149. sergio Major: it is not working for me if I install libappindicator
  150. bot Daniel created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9690 >: #9690: < gajim error on start audio session >
  151. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9690 >: #9690: < gajim error on start audio session >
  152. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9690 >: #9690: < Error in stream setup when starting audio session >
  153. lovetox sergio most people use debian and they package that lib
  154. lovetox maybe you should ask in a fedora support chat, to get someone take a look at it and package it
  155. sergio lovetox: ok thanks
  156. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/430 >: SingleMessageWindow: Do not translate placeholder labels
  157. bot Daniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/407 >: Open 1:1 chat instead of private message when doubleclicking a participant in a non-anonymous group chat
  158. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9690 >: #9690: < Error in stream setup when starting audio session >
  159. x jeez louis!