Gajim - 2019-04-08

  1. lovetox bango, no not every server requires a captcha, but most do, and no the captcha is simply a picture, and you send your answer to the server
  2. lovetox its not google magic that checks your mouse movements and looks if you are human
  3. lovetox thats also why its not the most effective anti spam method :/
  4. bango thank you
  5. bango With Gajim, can I communicate with new people who is using Conversations on their mobiles? And can we do it using the OMEMO protocol, or even OMEMO over Tor?
  6. wurstsalat bango, yes you can
  7. bot Philipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/403 >: Add Info button for vCard query in AddContact dialog
  8. bango just a try
  9. bango But if I see that messages sent in public rooms are not encrtpted, rhen my ISP could see my messages as plain text?
  10. bango then*
  11. wurstsalat yes, bango, like everyone else who is joined
  12. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/405 >: WIP: Rework SingleMessageWindow
  13. Nikky on startup gajim alwys reconnects to multiple channels that are broken, that i keep removing, and one not working transport .. how can i delete those permanently ?
  14. wurstsalat Nikky, go to Gajim > Bookmarks
  15. Nikky thanks
  16. bot Daniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/403 >: Add Info button for vCard query in AddContact dialog
  17. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/406 >: Add speller to ChangeStatus dialog
  18. new-gajim-user Hello
  19. new-gajim-user Is there a way to change the color of the timestamp in gajim's chat window?
  20. wurstsalat new-gajim-user, I don't think so
  21. new-gajim-user wurstsalat, OK, thanks
  22. lovetox wurstsalat, what i meant was, to set the button sensitive/insensitiv depending on if there is text in the entry
  23. lovetox so we dont need a error dialog that says "there is nothing in the field"
  24. lovetox because that can never happen then
  25. wurstsalat yeah that's right, I actually forgot to remove that dialog! thanks
  26. lovetox yeah and to make the button insensitive once the entry is empty
  27. wurstsalat will do :)
  28. lovetox thanks
  29. bango I come from Riot, and I'm moving my first steps in XMPP (using Conversations for the moment). I think that here meeting new people here is more awkward, since: 1. When logged in for the firsr time I didn't see any suggestion for public rooms to join in. 2. Even now that I'm in, I can't send a private message to anyone. If I select to send private message to someone, it appears on the public chat with just a reference to the intended receiver.
  30. Link Mauve bango, this room is about Gajim though, but you can have a look at https://search.jabber.network/
  31. Link Mauve Conversations does indeed have a super awkward private message workflow, the reasoning is to encourage people to add each other to talk, or to make room admins configure the room to expose the JID of every participant.
  32. Link Mauve In Gajim it works as expected, by opening a new tab with the other participant.
  33. bango ohhh, I was quite hoping such an answer
  34. bango let's say that this room has JIDs exposed... right? Using Conversations I can't even know who is on-line, or query him. Does Gajim on PC allow both these functionalities?
  35. Link Mauve bango, it doesn’t, you need to ask a participant for their JID in order to add them, the room isn’t configured to leak it to everyone.
  36. Link Mauve bango, you can know who’s present in the room, whether in Gajim or in Conversations.
  37. bango But room details shows dozens of partecipating people. Do they are actually joined in this channel at the moment??
  38. Link Mauve bango, yes, we currently are 126 participants in this room.
  39. Link Mauve All joined.
  40. Link Mauve There is no concept of offline occupants in public rooms.
  41. pep. s/ in public rooms//, there is a concept of offline members though
  42. Link Mauve pep., members can be considered offline occupants.
  43. Link Mauve Not participants though.
  44. Link Mauve But that’s a UX decision, not a specific concept.
  45. pep. yeah but that doesn't have to do with the room being public or not
  46. bango So in the list the _members_ appear even when off-line?
  47. pep. In conversations, in groupchats (member-only rooms)
  48. pep. I don't know if other clients have made that change yet or not
  49. bango Too bad, in my groupchats I'd like to know who is on-line looking at the partecipants list
  50. pep. bango, too bad?
  51. lovetox hm you know who is online
  52. lovetox you dont know who is offline from looking at the groupchat roster
  53. lovetox because they are simply not in there
  54. bango have I misunderstand? I'm a novice in English
  55. lovetox the groupchat roster shows you who is currently joined and online
  56. bango is the roster the son oh the chicken?
  57. bango of*
  58. wurstsalat :D roster is a technical term for contact list
  59. bango just kidding
  60. bango If someone allows me to try a private chat with him I'd be glad
  61. lovetox yeah just click on my name :)
  62. bango do these messages show in public room?
  63. bango ops, this for sure
  64. lovetox bango, no
  65. bot Marcin Mielniczuk updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/404 >: Add the possibility to paste as quote
  66. Evert i've a technical question... is a dev around? it is about proxy65_manager.py
  67. Evert in _on_connect_success the connection is tested using: activate.setData('test@gajim.org/test2')
  68. Evert but my prosody proxy65 component has an ACL set, so I guess that doesn't work at all. why is such a jid hardcoded?
  69. lovetox this is in the resolver, gajim lets you set any file transfer proxy
  70. lovetox so on startup there is an option to test them if they exist
  71. lovetox i guess some dev decided doing this with some fake jid is good enough
  72. lovetox this test is only executed when "test_ft_proxies_on_startup" is True
  73. lovetox the default is False
  74. lovetox so if its not for you you can deactivate it
  75. lovetox Evert,
  76. Evert Thanks, I figured that out already ;-) But I actually think it is a good idea to test those proxies. So replacing them with e.g. self.jid would work?
  77. bot Philipp Hörist created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9659 >: #9659: < disco.py RecursionError when using "Discover Services" >
  78. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/415 >: #415: < disco.py RecursionError when using "Discover Services" >
  79. lovetox Evert, no idea sorry
  80. Evert lovetox: thanks anyway. i'm fiddling around now... let's see if i can get this working.
  81. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8822 >: #8822: < Make Spellchecker use less memory >
  82. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *4ac532c3* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/4ac532c3fa5d9e6ca8f558e4270b2138f9a17da8 > Fix memory leak with spell checker - Dont shadow widgets destroy() - Dont bind spell checker to class attribute, this prevents its finalize Fixes #8822
  83. lovetox wurstsalat, please incorporate this fix also to the spellchecker in single message window and status dialog
  84. Evert ran a few tests. even with an active proxy65_acl, somehow it passed the test from the test@gajim.org/test2 jid. not sure how future-proof that is. i've added it to the acl to be sure.
  85. Evert i'm also trying to modify code so filetransfer proxies are prioritized, or the only streamhost type allowed, when using filetransfer proxies.
  86. lovetox this is a legacy feature, normally your server should announce a ft proxy
  87. lovetox gajim gives that prio
  88. lovetox im not sure where you would need more than one
  89. Evert True. But I got a few problems and such a manual override looked attractive. I've set up SRV records. 'prosodyctl check' complaints about non s2s xmpp port numbers; I don't even know how to test in Gajim which proxies it recognizes. So that's why I went manual.
  90. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9597 >: #9597: < History synchronization broken >
  91. wurstsalat lovetox, when I was writing that part I hoped you would somehow pick this up :D thanks, I'll adapt that MR!
  92. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9659 >: #9659: < disco.py RecursionError when using "Discover Services" >