lovetoxbango, no not every server requires a captcha, but most do, and no the captcha is simply a picture, and you send your answer to the server
lovetoxits not google magic that checks your mouse movements and looks if you are human
lovetoxthats also why its not the most effective anti spam method :/
bangothank you
bangoWith Gajim, can I communicate with new people who is using Conversations on their mobiles? And can we do it using the OMEMO protocol, or even OMEMO over Tor?
wurstsalatbango, yes you can
botPhilipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/403 >:
Add Info button for vCard query in AddContact dialog
bangojust a try
bangoBut if I see that messages sent in public rooms are not encrtpted, rhen my ISP could see my messages as plain text?
bangothen*
wurstsalatyes, bango, like everyone else who is joined
botDaniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/405 >:
WIP: Rework SingleMessageWindow
Nikkyon startup gajim alwys reconnects to multiple channels that are broken, that i keep removing, and one not working transport .. how can i delete those permanently ?
wurstsalatNikky, go to Gajim > Bookmarks
Nikkythanks
botDaniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/403 >:
Add Info button for vCard query in AddContact dialog
botDaniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/406 >:
Add speller to ChangeStatus dialog
new-gajim-userHello
new-gajim-userIs there a way to change the color of the timestamp in gajim's chat window?
wurstsalatnew-gajim-user, I don't think so
new-gajim-userwurstsalat, OK, thanks
lovetoxwurstsalat, what i meant was, to set the button sensitive/insensitiv depending on if there is text in the entry
lovetoxso we dont need a error dialog that says "there is nothing in the field"
lovetoxbecause that can never happen then
wurstsalatyeah that's right, I actually forgot to remove that dialog! thanks
lovetoxyeah and to make the button insensitive once the entry is empty
wurstsalatwill do :)
lovetoxthanks
bangoI come from Riot, and I'm moving my first steps in XMPP (using Conversations for the moment). I think that here meeting new people here is more awkward, since:
1. When logged in for the firsr time I didn't see any suggestion for public rooms to join in.
2. Even now that I'm in, I can't send a private message to anyone. If I select to send private message to someone, it appears on the public chat with just a reference to the intended receiver.
Link Mauvebango, this room is about Gajim though, but you can have a look at https://search.jabber.network/
Link MauveConversations does indeed have a super awkward private message workflow, the reasoning is to encourage people to add each other to talk, or to make room admins configure the room to expose the JID of every participant.
Link MauveIn Gajim it works as expected, by opening a new tab with the other participant.
bangoohhh, I was quite hoping such an answer
bangolet's say that this room has JIDs exposed... right? Using Conversations I can't even know who is on-line, or query him. Does Gajim on PC allow both these functionalities?
Link Mauvebango, it doesn’t, you need to ask a participant for their JID in order to add them, the room isn’t configured to leak it to everyone.
Link Mauvebango, you can know who’s present in the room, whether in Gajim or in Conversations.
bangoBut room details shows dozens of partecipating people. Do they are actually joined in this channel at the moment??
Link Mauvebango, yes, we currently are 126 participants in this room.
Link MauveAll joined.
Link MauveThere is no concept of offline occupants in public rooms.
pep.s/ in public rooms//, there is a concept of offline members though
Link Mauvepep., members can be considered offline occupants.
Link MauveNot participants though.
Link MauveBut that’s a UX decision, not a specific concept.
pep.yeah but that doesn't have to do with the room being public or not
bangoSo in the list the _members_ appear even when off-line?
pep.In conversations, in groupchats (member-only rooms)
pep.I don't know if other clients have made that change yet or not
bangoToo bad, in my groupchats I'd like to know who is on-line looking at the partecipants list
pep.bango, too bad?
lovetoxhm you know who is online
lovetoxyou dont know who is offline from looking at the groupchat roster
lovetoxbecause they are simply not in there
bangohave I misunderstand? I'm a novice in English
lovetoxthe groupchat roster shows you who is currently joined and online
bangois the roster the son oh the chicken?
bangoof*
wurstsalat:D roster is a technical term for contact list
bangojust kidding
bangoIf someone allows me to try a private chat with him I'd be glad
lovetoxyeah just click on my name :)
bangodo these messages show in public room?
bangoops, this for sure
lovetoxbango, no
botMarcin Mielniczuk updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/404 >:
Add the possibility to paste as quote
Everti've a technical question... is a dev around? it is about proxy65_manager.py
Evertin _on_connect_success the connection is tested using: activate.setData('test@gajim.org/test2')
Evertbut my prosody proxy65 component has an ACL set, so I guess that doesn't work at all. why is such a jid hardcoded?
lovetoxthis is in the resolver, gajim lets you set any file transfer proxy
lovetoxso on startup there is an option to test them if they exist
lovetoxi guess some dev decided doing this with some fake jid is good enough
lovetoxthis test is only executed when "test_ft_proxies_on_startup" is True
lovetoxthe default is False
lovetoxso if its not for you you can deactivate it
lovetoxEvert,
EvertThanks, I figured that out already ;-) But I actually think it is a good idea to test those proxies. So replacing them with e.g. self.jid would work?
botPhilipp Hörist created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9659 >:
#9659: < disco.py RecursionError when using "Discover Services" >
botPhilipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/415 >:
#415: < disco.py RecursionError when using "Discover Services" >
lovetoxEvert, no idea sorry
Evertlovetox: thanks anyway. i'm fiddling around now... let's see if i can get this working.
botPhilipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8822 >:
#8822: < Make Spellchecker use less memory >
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >:
*4ac532c3* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/4ac532c3fa5d9e6ca8f558e4270b2138f9a17da8 >
Fix memory leak with spell checker
- Dont shadow widgets destroy()
- Dont bind spell checker to class attribute, this prevents its finalize
Fixes #8822
lovetoxwurstsalat, please incorporate this fix also to the spellchecker in single message window and status dialog
Evertran a few tests. even with an active proxy65_acl, somehow it passed the test from the test@gajim.org/test2 jid. not sure how future-proof that is. i've added it to the acl to be sure.
Everti'm also trying to modify code so filetransfer proxies are prioritized, or the only streamhost type allowed, when using filetransfer proxies.
lovetoxthis is a legacy feature, normally your server should announce a ft proxy
lovetoxgajim gives that prio
lovetoxim not sure where you would need more than one
EvertTrue. But I got a few problems and such a manual override looked attractive. I've set up SRV records. 'prosodyctl check' complaints about non s2s xmpp port numbers; I don't even know how to test in Gajim which proxies it recognizes. So that's why I went manual.
botPhilipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9597 >:
#9597: < History synchronization broken >
wurstsalatlovetox, when I was writing that part I hoped you would somehow pick this up :D thanks, I'll adapt that MR!
botDaniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9659 >:
#9659: < disco.py RecursionError when using "Discover Services" >