botDaniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9518 >:
#9518: < Keyboard key interpretation error with "^" >
botDaniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9522 >:
#9522: < Switching keyboard layout makes Gajim crash >
ChunkHey are ppl alive in here?
ChunkClient certificates in XMPP. Are they SSL certificates? Can I create a self signed one for my LAN host (no static IP nor domain name) and use it for another level of encryption on my XMPP connection? How do they work??
rom1deplovetox: ehh, it appears not to crash anymore, GG ;)
lovetoxChunk its not another level of encryption
lovetoxits exactly the same, just that your server only accepts connections that provide the client certificate
lovetoxi dont you have any benefit from that on a LAN
ChunkOh okay so i keeps the same SSL except it just requires two ways to have a crt
Chunki imagine I would have to configure that on the server side, then always require the client cert or else it wouldn't connect. Sound correct lovetox ? thn
Chunk*thnx
lovetoxyes
lovetoxi think this is mostly used in companys for some reason
Chunkahh okay. thanks. I also have PGP keys with this client. that just double checks authentication right?
lovetoxi guess it has a higher security because both sides need a valid cert
lovetoxbut you have the hassle to install the certs on the clients
Chunkso I need two way configuration.. otherwise it's bogus.
ChunkI don't want to have to require that in case I have other clients like on my android.
lovetoxyes the first presence of a contact is signed by his pgp key and gajim checks that
lovetoxas is every pgp message
Chunkdoes that get verified on the server side? (PGP key)?
Chunkor just the client? sorry for noob Qs
lovetoxjust the client
lovetoxpgp is end to end encryption
Chunkok. Hmmmm..
mrDoctorWhogajim doesn't show the number of participants in the room
ChunkHow does the end recipient unencrypt it or is it just for PMs and requires to be accepted both sides?? It's essentially just for private messages, just like OMEMO?
asterixYes, tou encrypt with your contact's public key so he (and only him) can decrypt yhe msg
asterixArg, no lmc on conversation ...
Chunkcrud, so it has no other encryption uses eh.
ChunkOh well. I have somebody to try it with I'll do it up :D
nicocohey everybody. In Gajim, I cannot see the avatars my buddies set up using Conversations. I'm running my own prosody instance and activated the vcard, vcard4 and vcard_legacy modules. Is this fixable?
Chunkdoes anybody know what this is supposed to say: "dnf copr enable philfry/gajim" ??
Chunkin the OMEMO page for gajim ??
renandstimpyHey!
renandstimpyHello?
lovetoxyes probably, first nicoco please ask in prosody support channel, if this are the correct modules for your prosody version
lovetoxand if they work together without problems
renandstimpyI am wondering if anyone can link me to some Themes and how can I change the FONT color and size in the messages?
Link Mauvenicoco, you shouldn’t have both vcard_legacy and vcard enabled.
Link MauveThey provide the same service, but only vcard_legacy is synchronised.
renandstimpyCan anyone message me and let me know how to change the font color and size in messages. PLEASE.
renandstimpy..Can anyone message me and let me know how to change the font color and size in messages. PLEASE.
renandstimpyLink Mauve?
Link Mauverenandstimpy, I have no idea, I don’t even use Gajim.
renandstimpyLOL
Link Mauve?
renandstimpyCan you help me please
ChunkWho needs that anyways?
Chunkwhat you need that for eh?
renandstimpyThe font is too small for me and its hard to see.
Link MauveDo you have another question that I can answer?
renandstimpyIn the dark verision its impossible to see
lovetoxperference -> style -> themes
renandstimpyYes.
lovetoxadd a new theme and search for conversation font
renandstimpyOkay.
lovetoxthere are all style options in Gajim, there is not more, so assume everything you cant change there, you simply cant change
renandstimpyThank you LoveTox
nicocoLink Mauve, lovetox: thank for the advice. I tried unloading vcard_legacy and restarted gajim, I still don't see my contacts or my avatar. I should ask on prosody's room, sorry for the useless disturbance!
Link Mauvenicoco, the opposite.
Link MauveAlso yes, this is only for contacts on your server, if they are on other servers their admin has to do things.
Link MauveAlso note that modern avatars are subject to access control, so they can choose to make it public, viewable only to their contacts (so not in public rooms for instance) or private.
nicocooh, so only vcard_legacy, and no vcard and vcard4? almost all my contacts are use my server. I'm trying to get my friends to get rid of whatsapp… probably won't work but I'm learning things in the process ☺
renandstimpyHey LoveTox can you message me I am also wondering if it is posible to change the font color.
Link Mauvenicoco, both vcard4 and vcard_legacy.
Link MauveAnd no vcard.
Link MauveAlso have a look at the access model their client has set for avatars.
renandstimpyHow can I change the font color in messages.
nicocoI now have another extremely important question: my facebook spectrum2 transport uses a facebook icon, I can see it when "discovering services" on my server. I also (sometimes) see this icon on the transport "contact" when launching gajim. But despite the "use transport's icon" option being checked in gajim it only uses the facebook icon for offline contacts, and then the regular "green man" icon for online contacts. Also, once the contact goes offline, it then has a "grey man" icon.
nicocoso the question is: is there a fix for that?
renandstimpyNincoco do you know how to change the font color in Gajim?
nicocorenandstimpy: nope, sorry. I am not sure this works between different clients but I don't know much TBH
renandstimpyahh alright TY
Chunkhow do i install the omemo plugin in gajim on CENTOS 7 please? i'm a little new to rpm based package management and i'm about to rage out.
nicocochunk: can't you use gajim's plugin installer?
Chunkno there's dependencies involved. it's all good though i'm doing something else now
qrsBRWNChunk you will need to pull python-axolotl from some copr repo I believe.
qrsBRWNSince Gajim OMEMO plugin needs that and it isn't packaged for CentOS 7 afaik
oliis there an option to configure audio codecs?
lovetoxrenandstimpy, there are multiple color options in the theme dialog
lovetoxjust scroll the options and look at everything that has color in it
renandstimpyYea I noticed that, but I didn't see any for the message font
lovetoxfor what oli? audio chat?
oliyes, jingle call
lovetoxprefence, audio tab
lovetoxno i think codec is part of negotiation
lovetoxand im not sure what gajim supports
lovetoxaudio/video is not maintained
oli:(
renandstimpyTY
renandstimpyty
lovetoxrenandstimpy
lovetoxIncoming Message Text Font
lovetoxOutgoing Message Text Font
lovetoxits there
olii called myself from one account to another within the same gajim. did work fine :)
renandstimpysdf
lovetoxbut sound quality was terrible?
lovetoxi also experienced this
olicould be better. it didn't sound like opus codec. but not terrible
lovetoxif im home i could look how we determine the codec
olii think xmpp should ditch every codec besides opus (and maybe g711 for compatibility reasons)
lovetoxim not aware that there is any limitation on the codec
lovetoxits negotiated
olilovetox: the more codecs are negotiated the likelier it is that some crappy codec is used. opus gives you the best quality with any bitrate. there is really no need to use any other codec if both parties support it.
lovetoxand how do you know what the other party supports?
lovetoxi think you dont know how a negotiation works
lovetoxone party offers what it supports, the other party chooses what it wants to use
lovetoxi dont see why an application should choose a bad codec if a good one is offered, the count of offered codecs has no influence on that
olilovetox: in sip this is not an unusal problem, it happens all the time. because xmpp clients have to be compatible to every telephony system on the planet, i think all other codecs besides opus are mostly useless bloat
oli*don't have to be compatible
Link Mauveoli, why does it happen? Also why close the door to every phone on the planet, while interop is mostly a done thing?
oliinterop to what?
Chunkwhat's the point of a PGP key for my whole account in Gajim?
Chunkthere's a little key symbol, does it do anything?? probably not eh
Link Mauveoli, Jingle and SIP.
oliLink Mauve: real world examples
Link MauveUh, me calling my friends’ phones from Gajim around the time of 0.14, thanks to Asterisk.
Link MauveI’m sure you’ll find a lot of more relevant deployments.
oliwhat does not work when the client offers only opus and g711
oliLink Mauve: asterisk does support opus
Link MauveDunno, I haven’t looked at the codecs being negociated.
Link MauveYou can have a look in the XML console while establishing a call, if you are interested.
Link MauveOpus didn’t exist back then.
olii will look in the xml console, when i'm back at the computer.
oliwhat i wanted to do is to disable all other codecs and set the prefered bitrates for the opus codec (if gajim supports opus). i think codec settings are much to complicated in most voip clients (combinations of codec, samplerate and bitrate). it would be nice if the user could just set a prefered bitrate (default 40kbps) and maybe a max bitrate.
olii have asterisk running and very much would like to use xmpp for phone calls too.
olithese are just my thoughts not feature request.
Link Mauveoli, what prevents you?
oliLink Mauve: missing mobile client and when i tried it a couple of month ago gajim was always crashing with this one library.
oliforgot the name
Link MauveOk.
wurstsalatoli, feel free to dig in the code! Working audio (with good quality on top) is highly anticipated
oliwurstsalat: i can make some python wurstsalat out of gajim
olinot sure my coding skills are sufficient. you should really ask every user to get involved in development out of the blue.
wurstsalatOh noes
olinot ask
oliit's kind of don't complain just do it yourself
wurstsalatWhy not? A MR can't hurt, you probably learn something in the process if it's getting reviewed. I learned a lot from this community!
olinur konstruktive kritk bitte, machs doch besser
oliMR?
wurstsalatMerge request
wurstsalatIt sounded a bit like you would like to have a look at the code ;)
oliis that different than a pull request?
wurstsalatNo, same but github/gitlab
oliwurstsalat: maybe i give the false impression. i have to act more clueless
olii will look at the code later. just for fun.
rom1depdamn, Gtk2 is better on windows than Gtk3
rom1depjust updated meld
rom1depsigh
rom1depshouldn't have
oliI wonder if it's possible to login on a self hosted gitlab with a gitlab.com account.
oliI think it's funny that you can login with google and ms-github, but not with an gitlab.com account
oliabout audio codecs. in jingle_rtp.py are two audio codecs set. does this mean only the Speex codec it used. See:
https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/blob/master/gajim/common/jingle_rtp.py#L350
oliabout audio codecs. in jingle_rtp.py are two audio codecs set. does this mean only the Speex codec it used.
aliabdullahhello
aliabdullahA sticker has been sent using Movim
lovetoxyeah not supported yet aliabdullah
lovetoxyes oli maybe its enough to define more current ones
lovetoxyou probably need the correct gstreamer plugins installed probably
olilovetox: according to the xml console opus is offered as third choice. and then a lot of weird codecs
lovetoxcan you show me the stanza
oliregarding interop: more important than sip is maybe webrtc. and that only supports opus
olii'm getting internal server errors now. i have to figure out whats wrong
lovetoxah i see
lovetoxGajim accepts all codecs but it sets as preference SPEEX
lovetoxso even if opus is offered it always choses speex
lovetoxso i guess its just about changing that preference you linked
oliyes, if you comment out the speex settings it will offer opus as first choice.
oliif any actibe developer familiar with this stuff? if not i'll try to find some good settings.
wurstsalatTrying to find some good defaults seems like a good idea to me
oliinternal server error had nothing to do with gaim. problem with the sip jingle gateway in mongooseim.
olior the lack of a proper config by me
lovetoxoli the line you quoted is the preference when we choose
lovetoxnot when we offer
lovetoxyou cant modify what we offer, its determined by what farstream has codecs installed
lovetoxso it seems on your system opus is installed so its offered
lovetoxbut gajim always choses speex
lovetoxso instead add a line at the top with the OPUS codec
lovetoxas first pref
olilovetox: are you sure? if the part is commented out speex is not offered
lovetoxhm maybe the preferences count for offering too
olithere has to be a way to override the codec preferences completly
lovetoxand does it chose now opus?
lovetoxi dont understand, the list is there to specify the codecs
lovetoxwhat more do you need to override?
olilovetox: how do i know?
rom1deplovetox: so, for the record, on a crappy, unreliable, overproxified connexion, where the first few SRV options are IP banned gajim master manages to establish and to resume a connexion. I think few things were done right there, including SM (while, for instance, Dino can't even connect). 👍
OTOH it doesn't seem to resume automatically after I suspend to RAM.
oliwhat codec is choosen. quality is better
lovetoxrom1dep, that good to hear, are you talking about a windows machine?
rom1depnot this time, this one is a linux/KDE
lovetoxthen its weird that it doesnt connect after standby, maybe start from console and check what it says after standby
rom1depa lot of noise due to ClientsIconsPlugin, let me try to find things through that
rom1deplovetox: maybe the second or third is related https://code.tamytro.org/_admin/gists/GYn2CdFZW3W4BKuPhrB6
lovetoxrom1dep, there must be a log message before that
lovetoxlog.info('Successfully bound %s', jid)
lovetoxwait what nbxmpp version do you use
lovetoxthe line numbers suggest you dont use latest master