Gajim - 2018-12-17


  1. mrDoctorWho lovetox: thank you!
  2. Maranda lovetox, Windows Master is usable?
  3. Maranda lovetox, and I see Gajim still querying the PEP node on connection instead of waiting just for the notification is that still the current behaviour?
  4. Maranda (for bookmarks)
  5. saber good morning :) gajim 1.1.0 under gajim > manage groupchats > (new) nicknames are saved only with small letters 🤔 gajim v0.16 saves nicknames with large letters without problem ...
  6. lovetox saber, yes a bug will be fixed with the next bugfix version
  7. lovetox Maranda, yes we query the node
  8. lovetox cant depend on servers sending the notification in time
  9. lovetox and on empty nodes there is no notification
  10. saber perfect ... thanks 👍
  11. Maranda lovetox ok, anyhow I fixed the notification spam on status, at least for local accounts, for remote it's expensive and unreliable to do.
  12. Maranda lovetox ok, anyhow I fixed the notification spam on status, at least for local self accounts, for remote contacts it's expensive and unreliable to do.
  13. mrDoctorWho https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/2f398cb6-0ba9-4a35-87cd-f0121044d0ba
  14. mrDoctorWho Had this after reconnect today
  15. mrDoctorWho Was unable to send any message
  16. lovetox mrDoctorWho, was that also after resume?
  17. mrDoctorWho lovetox, yes
  18. lovetox hm yeah something is still not right, i try to find the cause
  19. lovetox thanks anyway for testing master
  20. mrDoctorWho no problem, I like it
  21. mrDoctorWho thank you for keeping Gajim alive
  22. lovetox mrDoctorWho, are you sure you are on the latest nbxmpp master?
  23. lovetox how do you install it?
  24. lovetox you should use -f on the install to force a reinstall
  25. mrDoctorWho python setup.py install
  26. mrDoctorWho It worked well before
  27. lovetox yeah and then add -f
  28. mrDoctorWho oh, ok
  29. lovetox im not sure setup.py overwrites everything if the version stays the same
  30. mrDoctorWho you know, I had a problem once when it didn't overwrite some files
  31. mrDoctorWho now I'm on the latest
  32. mrDoctorWho that's for sure
  33. lovetox ok lets test until tomorrow if you see the same problem
  34. mrDoctorWho sure!
  35. lovetox and please write a full log to hd
  36. lovetox i see what the problem is with the traceback, but in this case i need the information how we got to that point
  37. mrDoctorWho gajim -v?
  38. lovetox yes
  39. mrDoctorWho ok
  40. mrDoctorWho I actually could copy a bit more, just wasn't sure you needed it
  41. mrDoctorWho now I can't, the terminal history is gone
  42. lovetox i would just reroute the log output to some file
  43. mrDoctorWho yeah, I should've done that
  44. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _python-nbxmpp_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp >: *c3304705* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/commit/c330470506344126b7714e7e4639e551e7258697 > Change some log messages *7303238a* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/commit/7303238af1005721d305c82f1423448d6906b9df > Raise version to 0.9.90.1
  45. mrDoctorWho I wonder if Gajim could have problems with Ctrl+C on a non-english layout
  46. bot Philipp Hörist created an issue in _python-nbxmpp_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/issues/63 >: #63: < Gajim in endless loop trying to reconnect if networking has been stopped and then started manually >
  47. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9490 >: #9490: < Gajim in endless loop trying to reconnect if networking has been stopped and then started manually >
  48. mrDoctorWho because it doesn't work for me when I try to copy from the log, but works well when I copy text from message input box
  49. mrDoctorWho same for Ctrl+Z
  50. mrDoctorWho or maybe it's another GTK issue
  51. mrDoctorWho but it works fine in firefox
  52. lovetox yes probably a problem in Gajim code
  53. lovetox as i dont understand how this should work with other layouts
  54. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _python-nbxmpp_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/issues/63 >: #63: < Gajim in endless loop trying to reconnect if networking has been stopped and then started manually >
  55. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _python-nbxmpp_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp >: *a3e8096f* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/commit/a3e8096faf6afec575de15bcca01cba8a2355f4f > Dont try to send if we are disconnected Attempt to fix endless loop, Fixes #63
  56. lovetox mrDoctorWho, what other layout do you use?
  57. mrDoctorWho ru
  58. mrDoctorWho I wonder why it is a problem in Gajim. Back in the days of GTK2 I wrote a little app and I don't even remember that needed something special to allow user to copy&paste things
  59. lovetox the problem is that if you have focused the chatwindow and not the input
  60. lovetox and you type something on the keyboard
  61. lovetox you want that this keypress ends in the input
  62. lovetox but the chatwindow is focused, so the chatwindow gets the key-press, now we have to send it to the input manually
  63. lovetox now we want to do that for all keypresses, except CTRL+C
  64. mrDoctorWho oh, I got it
  65. lovetox so now we have to recognize when you hit CTRL+C and do nothing
  66. lovetox and let gtk copy it
  67. lovetox but this recognition fails if you have anohter layout
  68. lovetox that can be fixed, but i have to dig more into layouts how they work etc
  69. lovetox so you switch to russian layout
  70. lovetox but still hit CTRL+C ?
  71. lovetox or is the copy combination then also something else
  72. lovetox i mean the key where C is in the english layout
  73. mrDoctorWho in every layout the shortcut to copy is english Ctrl+C
  74. lovetox ok i understand
  75. lovetox im on it :)
  76. lovetox should be solveable
  77. mrDoctorWho great, thank you
  78. mrDoctorWho I'm a little worried also about the text becoming gray sometimes. I still can't figure out how or why it happens
  79. lovetox yeah i saw that too
  80. lovetox i thought it has to do with corrections maybe
  81. lovetox i dont recall changing something in that code though
  82. lovetox could also be a new bug in the latest gtk versions
  83. lovetox but not sure
  84. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/67fa8802-e791-4bb2-b9a5-7cc47de3b7e6
  85. lovetox mrDoctorWho, ^ i think i fixed the CTRL+C in russian layout thing
  86. lovetox please try and tell me other shortcuts that are not working in other layouts if you find some
  87. mrDoctorWho sure!
  88. mrDoctorWho Ctrl+C seems to work
  89. mrDoctorWho Ctrl+z doesn't work
  90. mrDoctorWho but thanks for ctrl+c, I use it more often
  91. mrDoctorWho Oh, and ctrl+tab doesn't seem to work on any layout
  92. mrDoctorWho hmm, now it works
  93. mrDoctorWho no, this is fine, probably the problem was because the user was typing, so I couldn't switch the tab
  94. mrDoctorWho one question
  95. mrDoctorWho I'm using Gajim at home and at work
  96. mrDoctorWho when I point the cursor at some nickname, I expect a popup window to appear and show me some information about that user
  97. mrDoctorWho and I have this behavior at work
  98. mrDoctorWho but not at home
  99. mrDoctorWho at home I use dark theme, if that matters
  100. lovetox no that does not matter
  101. lovetox i think we talked about this
  102. mrDoctorWho I don't think I mentioned this before
  103. mrDoctorWho I noticed it recently
  104. lovetox you mean tooltips do not work
  105. mrDoctorWho yes
  106. lovetox hm try to go to preferences
  107. lovetox and hover over some options
  108. lovetox does a tooltip appear?
  109. mrDoctorWho yes
  110. lovetox ok and in the groupchat roster if you hover over a nick?
  111. mrDoctorWho nothing
  112. mrDoctorWho same for roster
  113. lovetox very weird
  114. lovetox cant reproduce this here
  115. mrDoctorWho it works for me at work
  116. mrDoctorWho same Gajim version
  117. lovetox yeah but windows or?
  118. mrDoctorWho ubuntu
  119. mrDoctorWho and fedora at home
  120. mrDoctorWho different window managers, though
  121. mrDoctorWho kwin at home and awesome at work
  122. lovetox hm can you access gtk settings?
  123. lovetox try to find this setting here gtk-cursor-theme-size
  124. lovetox and set it to 16
  125. mrDoctorWho should I restart gajim afterwards?
  126. lovetox there was a bug in one of the gtk version which made tooltips flicker, maybe this bug shows on fedora in the way that it doesnt show a tooltip at all
  127. lovetox yes
  128. mrDoctorWho lovetox, it works now
  129. lovetox ah nice then it was that bug
  130. lovetox yeah it will go away in some future GTK update :)
  131. mrDoctorWho ok, thank you!
  132. porrier I'm using Gajim v0.16.7. As moderator I cannot remove the owner of a room and add another one. Changes are lost when I login again.
  133. lovetox porrier, yeah doesnt that seem logic?
  134. lovetox owner is the owner
  135. lovetox moderator is just a moderator
  136. lovetox ..
  137. lovetox Owner > Admin > Member
  138. lovetox Moderator gives you only the right to give a user voice if the channel is moderated
  139. porrier lovetox: I meant owner, sorry. If I add a new owner as owner of the room and remove the old owner (the one I do the changes), then this changes are not taken.
  140. porrier same problem when I add the owner of the room to the list of administrators. Error None: conflict or Error None: not-acceptable
  141. bot Marcin Mielniczuk modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9460 >: #9460: < MAM history not fetched until application restart >
  142. marmistrz I currently dont' get libnotify notifications from Gajim
  143. lovetox porrier, because it makes not much sense to add a owner as administrator
  144. lovetox owner is higher than administrator
  145. lovetox maybe you do too much at once
  146. lovetox just add a new owner
  147. lovetox and maybe its not obvious, only a owner can add another person as owner