Marandalovetox: which feature doesn't Maranda's server have running...? That's the real question 🤣
botNiklas Hambüchen created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9478 >:
#9478: < Ubuntu install instructions miss a "sudo >
botNiklas Hambüchen created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9479 >:
#9479: < Ubuntu install instructions with debian sources don't work on Ubuntu 16.04 >
botDaniel Brötzmann created an issue in _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/issues/18 >:
#18: < Ubuntu install instructions with debian sources don't work on Ubuntu 16.04 >
botDaniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9479 >:
#9479: < Ubuntu install instructions with debian sources don't work on Ubuntu 16.04 >
botDaniel Brötzmann created an issue in _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/issues/19 >:
#19: < Ubuntu install instructions miss a "sudo >
botDaniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9478 >:
#9478: < Ubuntu install instructions miss a "sudo >
botDaniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/issues/19 >:
#19: < Ubuntu install instructions miss a "sudo >
botPhilipp Hörist modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9173 >:
#9173: < Gajim doesn't properly restore server connections after internet connection loss >
lovetoxno not really daniel
botАртем Малиновский created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9480 >:
#9480: < Problem >
botPhilipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9480 >:
#9480: < Problem >
SaltyBoneswow...
SaltyBonesturning gajim on my desktop on after a few months made it really unhappy
SaltyBonesI think the backlog sync could use some love :)
lovetoxwhy whats happening?
nothing4youSaltyBones, muc?
nothing4youlovetox, when i try to /nick Nothing4You i can't do that
nothing4youeven though both connections are from my jid
lovetoxwhat connections?
nothing4youboth Nothing4You and nothing4you in here are me
lovetoxyeah but thats not a Gajim problem
nothing4youdoes the spec not allow merging to another nick?
nothing4youdo i have to do a full leave and rejoin?
lovetoxyes with the correct nick and only if the server supports it
nothing4youok
lovetoxotherwise you will get a conflict message
senyalovetox: hey! haven't you published the button-form plugin yet?
lovetoxhey senya, no not yet, had no time to work on it, but maybe i have some time today
SaltyBoneslovetox, well it slowly transfers all of the history seemingly piece by piece.
SaltyBonesThen it stops somewhere in the middle, I guess when the omemo secrets became invalid.
lovetoxhm no, mam catchup does not care about omemo
lovetoxand if its slow its either because the server doesnt give you more faster
SaltyBonesHuh...how would it decrypt messages thens
SaltyBones?
lovetoxor maybe we have a write speed problem with the db
lovetoxit does not, the omemo plugin decrypts messages
SaltyBonesRight, but the secrets that the omemo plugin has will run out.
SaltyBonesIt does continuous handshakes to update them and if the machine wasn't online for a while it cannot do that.
lovetoxwhat i meant was, the mam module does not care if message are decryptable or throw errors
SaltyBonesOr am I misremembering how that works?
SaltyBonesRight, but gajim doesn't display decryption failures so it will still stop somewhere in the middle, right?
lovetoxyou mean visually it stops for you in the chatwindow, yes probably, but that does not mean the mam catchup is not continuing
SaltyBonesoh, yeah, sure
lovetoxand also conversations has a mechanism that just removes your device as trusted if it is not online for X days
lovetoxjust so you know
SaltyBonesI am perfectly fine with that.
SaltyBonesI mean it won't be able to read the omemo messages anyway, even if it did receive them.
SaltyBonesAnd that's much more convenient than keeping track of keys manually, I guess.
senyaok, cool!
botAndrey Gursky created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9481 >:
#9481: < Avoid reconnecting due to non-aswered ping from previous session >
botPhilipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9481 >:
#9481: < Avoid reconnecting due to non-aswered ping from previous session >
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 3 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/c8f8f716-f1ae-4844-94dd-baf9a271e6c0
geraldI was looking at my message archive on my server and I noticed that gajim sends omemo payload messages to full jids, whereas Converstations sends them to the bare jid. I'd imagine this could explain issues with missed messages I was having while testing other clients. Is there a reason for using the full jid?
asterixMaybe because if you're connected with a non-OMEMO client, you don't want to receive encrypted messages?
lovetoxgerald, this has nothing to do with it
lovetoxyour server has most likely a carbon module
lovetoxand this pushes the message to all resources, it does not matter to what resource the message was adressed
lovetoxif you are mssing messages, its most likely because of either trust
lovetoxor broken sessions between the devices
geraldah, ok. thanks!
PorkepixHi, question, I wanted to give a new shot to Gajim, sadly got a crash that application wanted to report. It lead me to an internal GitLab which is fine, sadly it seems you can't join without going through OAuth or Google. Is there any chance to be able to do so?
zuglufttierPorkepix, just register an account ;)
Porkepixzuglufttier, Yeah, I would like to to end this report. But I don't want to feed Google by doing so, same goes for OAuth dependency.
zuglufttierDon't choose the "Sign in" but the "Register" panel.
PorkepixWhat I did: https://framapic.org/W92BLif27Nnr/iSqAWqrQWIoG.png
zuglufttierOh, I see, do you use some kind of blocker like uMatrix?
PorkepixOf course, and if I disable it I will have to go through ReCAPTCHA. Which is what I want to avoid.
zuglufttierrecaptcha only works, if you allow google.com at least once.
zuglufttierSo, there's no other way at the moment.
zuglufttierYeah, either allow google.com for that site or use tor browser.
PorkepixNo I don't want to do it with Tor either. Problem is not only tracking but also feeding drones
zuglufttierThen there's no way.
PorkepixSeems like I can't sign up then, sad to be tied to Google for Free Software, once again.
zuglufttierYep, seems so.
PorkepixGiving away the report here in case somebody want to do something with it: https://mindleaking.org/privatebin/?04972724d206aa1f#k+rpjC/V9OsEQdqkf1ynNCtTrILilUNeEEMCrRx/F3A=
lovetoxi think this is fixed in nightly anyway
lovetoxIn this sad world there are people that flood our tracker with spam
lovetoxso we need stuff like recaptcha
lovetoxi can create you an account if you give me a username and email
lovetoxPorkepix,
Porkepixlovetox, Sadly gitlab is spammed whether you have ReCAPTCHA or not
PorkepixThere are spammers which are not bots and spams any opened gitlab 😕
PorkepixMany craps like https://git.laquadrature.net/snippets/708 for example. Gotta clean all of this again, but this is slow and annoying thing to do
lovetoxyeah great thing the global snippets
lovetoxwhat we did what helped well
PorkepixThere are spam groups too
lovetoxyou have to ban all ips from vietnam and indonesia
lovetoxthen you have 0 spam
lovetoxits only these two that target gitlab it seems
PorkepixMmmmh, do you have ranges?
PorkepixSad to ban whole country though. Gotta check this with other people, this is not the kind of thing we like to do
lovetoxyeah but if you look, all spam is in vietnamese