botPhilipp Hörist pushed 3 commits to branch _refs/heads/gajim_1.1_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/bc5d6192-9b05-4d3c-9e53-30ef27fd505f
lovetoxshould be fixed marmistrz
gerald>please dont post gifs that crash gajim into a muc
yeah, almost had a heart attack when the error message popped up out of the blue ;)
marmistrzlovetox: sorry
marmistrzthanks
marmistrzI actually thought that this one doesn't but I didn't realize I still had the plugin turned off
lovetoxmrDoctorWho, do you have some kind of second language on the keyboard
mrDoctorWholovetox, yes
lovetoxor anything special regarding keyboard layout/mode
mrDoctorWhoyes
lovetoxyes what exactly?
lovetoxcan you run a small python script for me
lovetoxhttps://paste.gajim.org/view/8b0cd516
lovetoxi guess you use a language where there is not letter C
lovetoxon such a keyboard layout, how would you copy paste stuff?
marmistrzlovetox, the plugin installer doesn't show any updates of url image preview. is this intended?
lovetoxwhat gajim version are you using?
mrDoctorWholovetox, sorry I missed your messages
mrDoctorWholovetox, the thing is I got an old weird laptop recently and it has some keyboard layout issues with the software I use (Fedora, KDE)
lovetoxi can fix that it does not fail, but copy paste will most likely not work
mrDoctorWhoYeah it doesn't work
mrDoctorWholovetox, I use two layouts, ru and us, and when I let KDE switch the layout to ru, part of the keyboard doesn't work. I found a solution to enable them via "setkxbmap ru" (manually setting layout in X), but hotkeys don't work with this method
mrDoctorWholovetox, the script you sent doesn't have any ouptut with russian layout
mrDoctorWhoI haven't yet found a proper solution for my issue and I'm not sure there is
lovetoxk then i will just add that Gajim doesnt crash
mrDoctorWhothat would be great
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 8 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/adb6fe52-a98b-4e80-aff6-6326c15a7686
marmistrzlovetox, 1.0.3+c02685320b71 on Arch Linux
lovetoxyeah i didnt port it yet to 1.0.3
lovetoxwill do later
userrrrrrrHi guys! Is there a plugin for quoting selected text with a hotkey?
userrrrrrrI'd really like it as it is more useful for me than ctrl+shift+arrow...
lovetoxso you just want to change the hotkey?
userrrrrrrlovetox, there is no hotkey for what I want.
lovetoxah i see
userrrrrrrright now I can only quote *selected* text using the right mouse menu
lovetoxand i guess right click with mouse and clicking quote is also not an option?
userrrrrrrin Psi + they have a hotkey for that, C+s
userrrrrrrtoo many mouse movements.
userrrrrrrthe hand stays too long on the mouse
lovetoxHm i see this can be useful
userrrrrrri'd prefer to just press ctrl+s when having selected what I wanna quote.
ZashHave you tried middle-click?
lovetoxdoes not work Zash
ZashWhat?
userrrrrrrZash, what for?
Zashuserrrrrrr: Pasting the selection
userrrrrrrhave I tried using mouse so that I don't have to use mouse?
userrrrrrri don't need to *paste* the selection, i need to *quote it*
ZashCould do some trickery to check if the selection is from the log and insert a quote marker
lovetoxZash, we have a simple quote method, he just asks to trigger it via hotkey and selection
botAndré proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/350 >:
Setup: move configuration to setup.cfg to improve readability
userrrrrrrlovetox, yep.
userrrrrrrwas pretty convenient in Psi + with ctrl+sa
userrrrrrr*ctrl+s
lovetoxany other suggestion, because ctrl+s is already used
userrrrrrrlovetox, left alt+s?
userrrrrrrlovetox, or ctrl+x
userrrrrrranyway, I don't need the functionality bound to ctrl+s now, so I would like to tailor it so I can quote with ctrl+s
userrrrrrrwhile not imposing my choice on others
userrrrrrrhrm, in conversations I see "lovetox is writing"
lovetoxyeah this would mean we have to implement a shortcut manager, where you can change all shortcuts
userrrrrrrand in gajim I see nothing of the sort...
lovetoxrather unrealistic right now
lovetoxwe dont display chatstates in MUCs
userrrrrrrokay, I would settle for ctrl+x or left alt + s 😉
userrrrrrrI see.
Link Mauve^X is usually used for cutting items (such as text from the input) in graphical programs.
Link MauveAnd ^S for saving things.
userrrrrrrLink Mauve, not when you've selected a text in the chat window, where you are clearly not in the text editing mode.
userrrrrrrLink Mauve, ^s is already reserved for a rather superflous feature
userrrrrrrstatus update
userrrrrrrLink Mauve, it's perfectly possible to have ctrl+x behave like quoting when you've selected some text from your backlog, while still preserving it as a cutting hotkey for text editing mode.
Nothing4Youonly in the buddylist window tho
Nothing4You^s that is
Link Mauveuserrrrrrr, modal shortcuts are pretty much impossible for most users to reason about.
Link MauveI’d strongly object to that.
ZashLink Mauve: vim users are not most users? :P
Link MauveZash, at least in Vim you’re taught these from the beginning. :p
Nothing4Youwhat needs to happen for plugins to be compatible with gajim-git? do they get auto-built or manually?
Nothing4Youi already updated this instance to the plugin installer for gajim-dev from the wiki page
lovetoxyeah then just install the plugins
Nothing4Youplugins still don't like my gajim being 1.1.91 > 1.0.90
lovetoxyou have to reinstall them
Nothing4Youi tried, let my try again
lovetoxafterwards you have to restart
Nothing4Youyeah, i think i may have forgotten the install button
Nothing4Yougive me a sec
Nothing4Youah that was it
userrrrrrrLink Mauve, that's better than not having such a useful shortcut
Nothing4Youit's still trying to load gotr though which still wants 0.15.9
Nothing4Youwhere can i remove that?
Nothing4Youjust remove the folder in ~/.local/share/gajim/plugins?
userrrrrrrok, how about an option you can check in options: ctrl+s behaviour: *quote selected* or *update status*
userrrrrrrand btw, if we go a bit modal, we can have ctrl+s both updating status (when no text selected) and quoting selected txt.
lovetoxi rather look into what we have to do to have somekind of shortcut config file where users can adjust hotkeys
lovetoxi feel we need this more often in the future
lovetoxso its worth investigating
Link Mauvelovetox, it’s usually much better to not have configuration for that, and instead to have sane defaults, so users can help each other without having to guess what has been changed.
userrrrrrrlovetox, and also please please look into how to decrease the size of your contact name while in chat with him!
Link MauveEverytime you introduce an option, you’ve lost.
userrrrrrrwhat we have now is terribly disproportionate
lovetoxbut it spares me discussion like that :D
userrrrrrrmy eyes are almost bleeding seeing this:
ZashWhat about a small popover when you select text with a button that lets you quote the textq
Nothing4Youthe httpupload plugin is now a core feature, isn't it?
lovetoxyes Nothing4You
Nothing4Yougotta clean up a few old plugins from my installed plugins that don't show up in gajim anymore anyways
lovetoxi dont understand what you mean userrrrrrr , decrease the size of the contact name? where?
userrrrrrrlovetox, ok, and what about the banner that is 1.5x bigger than conversations banners?
lovetoxit holds the avatar, and also informations like, status, chatstates notifications etc
lovetoxi dont see a way to make it smaller than 2 lines of text
userrrrrrrmy contact has no avatar.
userrrrrrrand the green circle indicating his online status is like 1/4 the height of the banner
userrrrrrr1/3 at best
lovetoxstill need 2 lines
lovetoxto answer your question, no you can not adjust the height
userrrrrrri say it's wasted space
userrrrrrri have the info who i'm talking to in the tab bar
userrrrrrrand even if I did need to have this information doubled, then not so overly big
userrrrrrrin short, a way to hide it would be cool.
userrrrrrr>i have the info who i'm talking to in the tab bar
userrrrrrrand their online status, too
userrrrrrrthat's in the tab bar
userrrrrrrmoreover, now I only have 3 tabs, but their tab panel representations are too small
lovetoxThe chatwindow will probably be get a redesign in 1.2
userrrrrrrwe could scale them to width
userrrrrrrno need to shrink it! there is 50% of free space left on the tab bar
lovetoxyou might want to move the tabs to the left or right side
lovetoxthere is a config setting tab_position
lovetoxin ACE
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 4 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/70edfddd-0509-4a8b-8f86-9c79bd1ceb8a
userrrrrrrlovetox, I hope for the redesign.
userrrrrrrlovetox, cause it's still pretty bad as it is.
userrrrrrrand probably the only reason people use and develop dino
userrrrrrrlovetox, and btw, would be nice to be able to shrink the conference member list further than we can now.
lovetoxyou can hide it, is that not enough?
userrrrrrrand user avatars in that list seem out of place
userrrrrrroh
userrrrrrrright, ty
userrrrrrrstill, the avatars in that list look out of place.
userrrrrrryou should probably round them
userrrrrrror insert dummy avatars for those without them...
userrrrrrr*and
userrrrrrror let users have text only MUC user list
userrrrrrr(as a possible solution)
userrrrrrrimage preview alignment is also not exactly perfect.
userrrrrrrother desktop messengers and Conversations seem to solve this problem in a more elegant way
userrrrrrrembedding the image previews so that they feel as though they are really on their place
userrrrrrrit's more or less okay as it is now, though...
lovetoxuserrrrrrr, Gajim is a 15 year old Messenger, compared to projects like Dino/Conversations which are 1-2 years old
lovetoxThats why it looks that way, and because there are not enough contributors to do a redesign of every single thing
userrrrrrrpidgin is also pretty old
userrrrrrrbut arguably less ugly
userrrrrrrlovetox, didn't know gajim was so old though...
ZashUglyness is subjective
botBaumGuard created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9407 >:
#9407: < Bug in Gajim >
botDaniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9407 >:
#9407: < Bug in Gajim >
marmistrzwhen is 1.1.0 expected?
mmfsoon^{tm}
ZashAlways Soon™
MarandaWhen you least expect it ®️
Nothing4Youin the future
Nothing4Youcertainly not in the past
lovetoxIts ready
lovetoxjust asterix is on holiday until next weekend
lovetoxso no release until then
mimi89999Who choose that green for status messages? That color attracts more attention than the black of arriving messages. Couldn't you make it gray? Yes, I know that I can change it. Just complaining about the defaults.
danielyes, grey might be a better default
botPhilipp Hörist closed a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/277 >:
WIP: Replace adhoc command window with GtkAssistant
botPhilipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/350 >:
Setup: move configuration to setup.cfg to improve readability
daniellovetox, I try to quickly resolve the conflicts in !346
botDaniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/346 >:
Scroll history window to bottom when day changed or selected
botDaniel Brötzmann created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9408 >:
#9408: < Add Gajim version info to Flathub >
mimi89999Is there any progress on #8822 ?
danielspell checker cpu usage? I don't think so
botDaniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9408 >:
#9408: < Add Gajim version info to Flathub >
mimi89999RAM usage.
mimi89999Maybe the text input could be destroyed when switching tabs and then recreated?
lovetoxmy plan is to just use one speller instance
lovetoxthat i attach to textview that is currently active
danielcould also be used for status message input field then, couldn't it?
lovetoxyes
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 13 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/cb2ba052-99a9-48c3-afb7-0659764db9e3
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >:
*0e3b74da* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/0e3b74da1692ed74b14b00e50f6b94dc0396a295 >
Fix pylint errors
SaltyBonesIs it possible to turn off the beginning-of-line-backspace chime?
SaltyBonesI have sounds-on deactivated but gajim still goes "donkdonkdonkdonk" when I hold backspace. :)
lovetoxI think its a GTK setting
lovetoxgtk-error-bell = 0
lovetoxtry that
lovetoxbut this is probably also used in other places
SaltyBonesThanks, I could indeed turn it off in the sound settings.
botJelmer Vernooij created an issue in _python-nbxmpp_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/python-nbxmpp/issues/58 >:
#58: < OMEMO usage for non-gajim nbxmpp clients >
userrrrrrris there any plugin to highlight quotations
userrrrrrrmarked with >
userrrrrrras in Conversations
lovetoxno
userrrrrrr:(
SaltyBoneslovetox, I just turned on encryption in gajim
SaltyBonesbut it displays an open red lock and says unencrypted
lovetoxon older messages?
lovetoxor on ones that you write
SaltyBoneson ones I write
lovetoxthen i guess its not encrypted
SaltyBonesWell...but I turned on encryption! :)
lovetoxdoes the console throw errors?
SaltyBonesno
SaltyBonesand according to my contact conversations says the messages are encrypted
lovetoxah
lovetoxyou have to update the plugins
lovetoxthe plugin is old and does not tell Gajim the encryption state, so Gajim assumes the worst
SaltyBoneshm..didn't they do that automatically? :)
lovetoxi dont know what version are you running?
SaltyBonestrunk
lovetoxno i mean of the plugin
SaltyBonesmaster
SaltyBones2.6.0
lovetoxyeah you need something newer
SaltyBonesmaybe I installed it locally because I do indeed not seem to have a plugin manager
SaltyBonesalthough I distinctly remember it updating automatically
SaltyBonesdid something change? is my plugin installer maybe not compatible anyomer?
lovetoxyes could be, we split plugins into different branches
lovetoxgajim1.1 branch plugins dont work for master
lovetoxetc
lovetoxbut you probably have some inbetween version of omemo that works for both
lovetoxeither way update the plugins from master branch
lovetoxor download from here https://ftp.gajim.org/plugins_master_zip/
SaltyBoneshow do I get a loadable zip from the git checkout?
lovetoxyou dont
lovetoxif you clone, then just copy the folder into your plugin dir
lovetoxif you want zips just download from ftp
SaltyBoneshm...plugin dir...that is ...~/.local/somewhere?
lovetox./local/share/gajim/plugins
SaltyBonesbrb
SaltyBonesah...wrong folder
SaltyBonesthat s more like it
botPhilipp Hörist pushed 5 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/6c0d472e-669c-4cf4-a80a-3e34393ba28f