Gajim - 2018-10-15


  1. concerto Uhm, what's the "Sync threshold" setting in MUCs?
  2. concerto I tried hovering over it, no tooltips.
  3. lovetox concerto the max days Gajim syncs from this muc
  4. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 3 commits to branch _refs/heads/gajim_1.1_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/733dc813-bd1c-4ce7-afc3-44fe996e3f1a
  5. mrDoctorWho Does Gajim honor Content-Disposition header when downloading files?
  6. lovetox no
  7. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: *68a286d4* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/68a286d44a263f7adf328be62854d58260fb9828 > [acronyms] Use absolute path *dc89adf0* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/dc89adf0966a541f8e61d60a4eefd8c879e4466d > [acronyms] Update manifest.ini
  8. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/gajim_1.1_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: *721e6a91* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/721e6a91289bd7e64a4e1d9614ba76f02e9917e8 > [acronyms] Use absolute path *346397d7* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/346397d7e274c4e216bc312f7303af67ff44410b > [acronyms] Update manifest.ini
  9. Daniel lovetox, does this menu support tooltips at all? I feel like there was something about it not supporting tooltips.
  10. Daniel Regarding Sync Threshold
  11. mrDoctorWho lovetox: could you please make it do so?
  12. Daniel Otherwise it could be named 'Log sync threshold'
  13. lovetox For what purpose mrDoctorWho?
  14. lovetox Daniel, no Tooltips are not possible
  15. mrDoctorWho there is another solution, but let me explain first
  16. lovetox And i find "Log" a bit terrible to be honest
  17. mrDoctorWho So, let's suppose the url is quoted (urllib.parse.quote), so the filename then is quoted too and it's quite annoying
  18. lovetox History is better if we have to change it
  19. mrDoctorWho If the url contains unicode, then it's usually quoted and gajim doesn't do unquoting
  20. Daniel Yes history sync threshold is way better than using log
  21. mrDoctorWho Browsers usually handle Content-Disposition header which contains filename or filename* value
  22. mrDoctorWho It would have been enough if gajim just done unquoting
  23. lovetox i still dont know what the problem is
  24. mrDoctorWho the problem is that quoted filenames are horrible and you can't read them
  25. lovetox after a file is downloaded it is saved with quoted name to the harddisk?
  26. mrDoctorWho yes
  27. lovetox so then we just unqote it before saving, what does this have to do with a content-disposition header
  28. mrDoctorWho >‎[02:51:17 PM] ‎mrDoctorWho‎: It would have been enough if gajim just done unquoting
  29. lovetox i wonder i unquote works differently on linux then on windows
  30. mrDoctorWho It shouldn't
  31. lovetox because on windows there are spaces allowed in the filename
  32. mrDoctorWho It's URL, not a windows path
  33. lovetox yeah and if i upload a file "test test.jpg"
  34. lovetox this is a valid filename on windows
  35. mrDoctorWho still valid in linux
  36. lovetox yeah spaces allowed also on liunx? didnt know that
  37. mrDoctorWho Of course they are, they're just not recommended
  38. pep. lovetox: iirc filenames in windows are usually more limited, that is, FAT and NTFS
  39. lovetox pep. i dont think so, NTFS even supports case sensitive filenames
  40. pep. ":" for example has a special meaning in NTFS
  41. Daniel Still no dot files without massive fiddling :D
  42. lovetox i would not say one is more limited than the other, they just are different
  43. mrDoctorWho yeah there are limits on both sides
  44. pep. Well you can sat that about the allowed character set for sure
  45. mrDoctorWho say, ext4 doesn't allow filenames longer than 255
  46. mrDoctorWho say, ext4 doesn't allow filenames longer than 255 chars
  47. Daniel How often do you receive a file with a name that long?
  48. mrDoctorWho never
  49. mrDoctorWho But if your /home is encrypted with ecryptfs, then you're gonna meet the limits much sooner
  50. bot Chris Spring created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9384 >: #9384: < crash >
  51. Daniel lovetox, plugin translations now work for most plugins. url image preview for example is still not translated
  52. lovetox yes because it doesnt use get_builder to load the ui
  53. lovetox we have to adapt all plugins
  54. lovetox but no hurry, this can be done independent of a Gajim release
  55. Daniel ok!
  56. Daniel glad it works now :)
  57. Daniel thanks!
  58. Daniel is 'slap' for 'sounds like a plan' common? :D acronyms expander is a funny plugin
  59. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/100 >: [plugins_translations] Remove outdated translations
  60. concerto lovetox: > concerto the max days Gajim syncs from this muc So if Gajim has been offline for > $threshold days, it will only fetch the last $threshold days of history? And I assume 'no threshold' means all history is always fetched?
  61. Daniel lovetox, in acronyms expander, is this one fixed yet? https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/68
  62. lovetox yes concerto
  63. lovetox beware of "no threshold", this means if you join the muc once, leave it, join it a year later, a year of history is retrieved
  64. lovetox you should only use that in private mucs
  65. lovetox btw default threshold for members only mucs, is "no threshold"
  66. mrDoctorWho I believe the limits should be done at the server side, too
  67. lovetox but for public mucs its 1 day
  68. lovetox mrDoctorWho, the server must allow to request the full archive, otherwise it makes no sense to have archive if i cant ask for the messages i want
  69. mrDoctorWho lovetox, isn't it a resource consuming operation?
  70. lovetox no, this is a bit misleading
  71. lovetox there is no request full archive
  72. lovetox you can only request X messages at a time
  73. lovetox usually 30-100
  74. lovetox and clients do this in a loop, 100, then the next 100, .. and so on
  75. lovetox so for the server this is just always a query for 100 messges
  76. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/101 >: Update README.md
  77. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9384 >: #9384: < Error on self.show_unsubscribed_dialog(account, event.contact): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'contact' >
  78. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9384 >: #9384: < Error on self.show_unsubscribed_dialog(account, event.contact): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'contact' >
  79. lovetox No Daniel, that acronym issue is not solved, its easy to solve though
  80. lovetox but i was not aware of it
  81. CatMan lovetox‎, thanks. at nightly build today all is ok with pwd to muc.
  82. lovetox and translation?
  83. CatMan lovetox‎, yes, ok. but omemo...
  84. CatMan something wrong with it
  85. CatMan lovetox‎, and... how about video and audio calls on windows release? will it fixed?
  86. lovetox no
  87. lovetox as i said without debug logs not much i can do
  88. lovetox you have now a debug log switch under preference -> advanced
  89. lovetox you can enable it restart
  90. CatMan you talk about omemo? or video/audio?
  91. lovetox or you use gajim-debug.exe -l gajim.plugin_system.omemo=DEBUG
  92. lovetox omemo
  93. CatMan ok.. will try now
  94. CatMan lovetox‎, can't see any error at log
  95. CatMan lovetox‎, at Conversations i see "Message was not encrypted for this device"
  96. CatMan lovetox‎, at Gajim i have OMEMO of my Conversations and it have green color
  97. CatMan lovetox‎, at log only one message to jid
  98. Daniel CatMan, did you try to send a message from the affected mobile device to Gajim?
  99. lovetox if you dont have a the fingerprint, its normal that we cant encrypt for the device
  100. lovetox if you restart gajim and send a message, on the first message gajim trys to query devices it has no fingerprints for
  101. lovetox there has to be an error
  102. CatMan lovetox‎, no error
  103. lovetox then the device is not published
  104. lovetox is it your own device?
  105. CatMan lovetox‎, no. look
  106. lovetox i should really add to show these errors in the UI
  107. CatMan if my friend (one server OpenFire) logged in from Gajim+Conversations = i can't get omemo over my Gajim or Conversations. If my friend will logoff from Gajim - all is ok. i can get omemo keys auto by conversations and can see him keys at Gajim shield.
  108. CatMan i think when Gajim + Conversations = Gajim can't request or receive keys at auto mode of Conversations?
  109. lovetox i dont know, you can send me logs
  110. CatMan yes, can. but i'm not saw anu errors at log
  111. lovetox its not neccesarily an error
  112. lovetox in the logs everything is logged, how many devices you contact has
  113. lovetox to what devices we encrypt
  114. lovetox when we request keys, etc
  115. lovetox you have to read the log, better, not just when you send a message
  116. lovetox there is happening many things already on start
  117. CatMan lovetox‎, where i can show my log to you?
  118. CatMan mail or etc?
  119. lovetox yes mail, philipp@hoerist.com
  120. CatMan was send
  121. CatMan user have 2 connections (Conversations+Gajim) but only one OMEMO and at Conversations NO message with OMEMO
  122. lovetox your email has no attachement
  123. CatMan last without. previous with
  124. CatMan i was send two mails. first with log, second with user jid
  125. lovetox CatMan, very weird i see a attachment symbol in Gmail, but i dont see the attachment anywhere
  126. lovetox was it a text file?
  127. CatMan yes. log-file
  128. CatMan and text "look" at body
  129. lovetox no sorry you have to send it again, its just not there
  130. lovetox now it worked
  131. CatMan was receive it?
  132. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _website/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/merge_requests/6 >: Updates Feature list
  133. CatMan not correctly understand it
  134. lovetox did you delete something out of that log?
  135. lovetox CatMan
  136. CatMan no. as is
  137. lovetox Go to Accounts menu -> advanced -> server info
  138. lovetox is 0163 PEP xep activated?
  139. CatMan yes. green. but at Conversations i can see - something like "damaged"
  140. lovetox it seems your server does not issue any PEP events
  141. lovetox thats why you get notified of new devices of your contacts
  142. lovetox i would further investigate serverside PEP module
  143. lovetox and if it sends out notifications
  144. lovetox *not notified
  145. CatMan earlier i was fix it by subscription. resubscribe, relogin and then OMEMO was fixed (auto get keys). or just restart OpenFire.
  146. CatMan you think problem at openfire?
  147. CatMan with avatars same proble. i have no avatars for some jid's
  148. lovetox yes because they are also distributed via PEP
  149. lovetox i think its either a miss configuration of the server or a bug at the server
  150. lovetox your server does not issue PEP Events
  151. CatMan lovetox‎, i think it can be server error, because after restart some time i saw "support" and then "damaged" by conversations
  152. CatMan your Gajim can't check it? =)
  153. CatMan i mean after server restart
  154. Qapaq Hi
  155. Qapaq I have a problem with Gajim
  156. Qapaq Everytime i open the program
  157. Qapaq A window with "update your plugins" popups
  158. CatMan was same, but later is go on
  159. CatMan was not touch any
  160. Qapaq Not for me
  161. Qapaq and for a friend
  162. CatMan which version of plugin installer now?
  163. Qapaq we both use arch
  164. CatMan because i'm now ise 0.20.5, but at repository only 0.20.4 =)
  165. Qapaq it says 0.20.4
  166. CatMan which OS?
  167. lovetox which Gajim version?
  168. CatMan Win, Linux ?
  169. Qapaq ‎[07:35:38] ‎Qapaq‎: we both use arch
  170. Qapaq Gajim 1.0.3
  171. lovetox hm weird 20.4 is the current version
  172. CatMan but now i have 20.5 =)
  173. Qapaq https://media.5222.de/upload/vXBE_EevoBpVqz8T/plug.png
  174. CatMan now i try to update part of same plugins and it tell me "downloaded", but versions of him is older
  175. lovetox Qapaq and if you update them?
  176. Qapaq yes
  177. Qapaq like three times
  178. CatMan lovetox‎, about pep's at openfire. really can be, because developers of openfire tell me to use nightly builds where it was fixed. will try it later.
  179. lovetox Qapaq are you sure all plugins download?
  180. lovetox its not enough to click Yes
  181. Qapaq Ok
  182. Qapaq I will try a couple more times
  183. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/341 >: Update feature list in appdata.xml
  184. bot Daniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/341 >: Update feature list in appdata.xml
  185. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _website/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/merge_requests/7 >: Update screenshots
  186. asterix Cool I look that this evening
  187. asterix Cool I look that this evening
  188. bot Jakub Lánský created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9385 >: #9385: < PyGObject error after startup >
  189. bot Jakub Lánský modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9385 >: #9385: < PyGObject error after startup >
  190. bot Jakub Lánský modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9385 >: #9385: < PyGObject error after startup >
  191. bot Jakub Lánský modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9385 >: #9385: < PyGObject error after startup >
  192. bot Daniel Brötzmann proposed a new merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/102 >: [set_location] Polish dialogs, add dependency warning
  193. bot Daniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/102 >: [set_location] Polish dialogs, add dependency warning
  194. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: *d95e4edb* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/d95e4edbafa5daedbfc72299bee97dab8e1b015b > [plugins_translations] Remove outdated translations
  195. bot Yann Leboulanger merged a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/100 >: [plugins_translations] Remove outdated translations
  196. asterix Daniel: Hi, When you upgrade a plugin, don't forget to increase version number, else it it won't be updated in users machines.
  197. asterix for he and ru removal for example
  198. asterix I don't add a version bump, that doesn't hurt if it's not reflected in users machine in this case
  199. asterix Daniel: also have you seen https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/95
  200. asterix ha yes, you mention it :)
  201. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/update-features_ of _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website >: *0bc6d0a4* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/commit/0bc6d0a43fb1b06aab8da814801d3b29be3fb2be > Updates Feature list *5de01315* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/commit/5de01315b484da50b9992c2af678bdb8302d9c10 > Fix some typos
  202. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 0 commits to branch _refs/heads/update-features_ of _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website >:
  203. bot Yann Leboulanger updated a merge request for _website/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/merge_requests/6 >: Updates Feature list
  204. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 3 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/3d32da6c-edd4-4992-a1ba-5665e88edb20
  205. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/issues/16 >: #16: < Update feature list >
  206. bot Yann Leboulanger merged a merge request for _website/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/merge_requests/6 >: Updates Feature list
  207. asterix Daniel: you can see the new website here: https://devel.gajim.org/
  208. asterix I fixes a few typos you did
  209. asterix and it's to be translated :)
  210. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website >: *c6342a5c* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/commit/c6342a5cee5598dd956054ecaa9bf3c2cebf86b7 > update template engine
  211. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/751f980e-2bd5-4b27-a0ca-3b3fe76690a4
  212. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _website_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/issues/15 >: #15: < Update screenshots >
  213. bot Yann Leboulanger merged a merge request for _website/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/website/merge_requests/7 >: Update screenshots
  214. Daniel asterix, yes I deliberately didn't touch manifest.ini for the plugins_translations plugin, just because it wasn't really necessary.
  215. asterix ok perfect then
  216. Daniel I'm happy to see all this merged :)
  217. asterix I'm happy to see a project (website) with no opened issue and no opened MR :)
  218. bot Daniel Brötzmann updated a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/101 >: Update README.md
  219. bot Yann Leboulanger updated a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/101 >: Update README.md
  220. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins >: *a76d8af3* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/commit/a76d8af32d7753d7be56080c1a694b285edf4814 > Update README.md
  221. bot Yann Leboulanger merged a merge request for _gajim-plugins/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/merge_requests/101 >: Update README.md