Gajim - 2018-09-15


  1. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *eca69e39* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/eca69e399bac1fc59ddb6563879c9e407e6ddf2f > Fix Windows build - Downgrade to glib2 2.56.2 because higher is broken on Windows 7 - Dont abort build if depchecker fails on some files
  2. lovetox https://share.hoerist.com/philipp/IrBOuqe1WliMDG56/lock.PNG
  3. lovetox marmistrz, ^
  4. lovetox https://share.hoerist.com/philipp/M4z6TBh3NgEenADK/lock2.PNG
  5. lovetox or like that?
  6. lovetox i think the orange thing on the open lock is warning enough, doesnt have to be red
  7. opal i can hardly see that its an exclamation point tbh
  8. opal having a yellow triangle might be a more conventional warning indicator
  9. concerto Is that warning icon going to appear for all unencrypted messages? Or only when OMEMO is enabled?
  10. concerto (because the former would be really annoying)
  11. mrDoctorWho hi there
  12. mrDoctorWho is this a known issue that gajim has trouble showing correct nicknames in roster?
  13. mrDoctorWho let's say I have two different contacts in roster (with different nicknames). When the Gajim window is inactive, their nicknames are same
  14. mrDoctorWho Only when I select that contact in roster, gajim shows it's nickname properly
  15. lovetox no concerto, if encryption is disabled there are no icons
  16. lovetox mrDoctorWho, you are telling me if you select another window on your desktop nicknames beginn changing in the roster?
  17. mrDoctorWho lovetox, actually the nicknames are wrong until I select that contact in my roster
  18. mrDoctorWho I can record a video if you like
  19. lovetox yeah that would be great
  20. mrDoctorWho hmm suddenly I can't reproduce it. I'll make a video next time I notice it
  21. mrDoctorWho I think this happens when someone logs in or logs out
  22. lovetox i could imagine a roster refresh problem
  23. lovetox https://share.hoerist.com/philipp/6jUEvFsX1jbjLK5k/lock3.PNG
  24. mrDoctorWho lovetox, can I send the video in private?
  25. lovetox yes
  26. mrDoctorWho thanks
  27. mrDoctorWho some contacts are doubled, it's ok, but for instance "riley" only has a single jid, but it shows in roster several times
  28. lovetox its a drawing issues
  29. mrDoctorWho gtk?
  30. lovetox its not really there 2 times
  31. lovetox no i never saw this
  32. lovetox can you please disable the roster plugins
  33. lovetox and check if it still happens
  34. mrDoctorWho sure
  35. mrDoctorWho should I restart gajim afterwrads?
  36. mrDoctorWho should I restart gajim afterwards?
  37. lovetox hm try first if its still reproduceable
  38. mrDoctorWho ok, I'll be watching it carefully
  39. lovetox also you what have you selected under "View"?
  40. mrDoctorWho show roster only
  41. lovetox ok good
  42. mrDoctorWho also, is it only theme related that the scroll is so tiny so it's really hard to pick it?
  43. mrDoctorWho the room roster just disappeared
  44. mrDoctorWho probably plugin-related though
  45. mrDoctorWho https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/6cdd77c7-c826-4a36-9584-7a921c531fb3
  46. lovetox oh no yes this is a valid bug
  47. mrDoctorWho Traceback (most recent call last): https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/d6333ac8-ef54-4f43-b744-6469d1ffd393
  48. lovetox i think you should restart, this one error causes a lot of others
  49. mrDoctorWho I just did, it was when I pressed Ctrl+C in terminal
  50. lovetox maybe this was related though to disabling the plugin without restart i wonder
  51. lovetox please report if you see this again
  52. mrDoctorWho sure
  53. mrDoctorWho I think it must be "chatstate in roster" plugin
  54. bot Philipp Hörist proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/325 >: ConvTextview: Rework display of encryption
  55. bot Philipp Hörist closed a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/324 >: WIP: Show an icon if a message is not encrypted.
  56. mrDoctorWho just got a segfault. Nice!
  57. mrDoctorWho is there a way to make gajim-history-manager use another database?
  58. mrDoctorWho Like, if I wanted to look at the history from another machine
  59. marmistrz My opinion is: * black padlock - encrypted, trusted * black padlock with an excl. mark - encrypted untrusted * red unlocked padlock - unencrypted I consulted it with a very non-technical user and they think: * green closed padlock - encrypted trusted (full security) * black closed padlock (optionally with an excl mark) - encrypted, untrusted * red unlocked padlock - unencrypted They think that the shield looks like some anti-virus thing :))
  60. marmistrz lovetox, ^
  61. marmistrz And for me the shield doesn't look very well too.
  62. marmistrz And I would choose a deeper, darker shade of green
  63. lovetox there is no optional exclamation mark
  64. lovetox the exclamation mark is only on the unlocked padlock
  65. lovetox and there is also no unlocked padlock without exclamation mark
  66. lovetox you can choose parts of the icon, only color
  67. lovetox you cant choose parts of the icon, only color
  68. lovetox oh gtk has a padlock without exclamation mark
  69. lovetox doesnt help much though
  70. lovetox so i guess red unlocked is unencrypted
  71. lovetox and locked + color does show trust
  72. mrDoctorWho lovetox, have there been any changes in database structure since gajim 1.0?
  73. mrDoctorWho File "/home/mrdoctorwho/gajim/lib/python3.6/site-packages/gajim/history_manager.py", line 269, in _fill_jids_listview self.cur.execute('SELECT jid, jid_id FROM jids WHERE jid_id IN (' sqlite3.DatabaseError: database disk image is malformed
  74. lovetox no, this sounds like a bad error
  75. lovetox you should always exit gajim if you use the history manager
  76. mrDoctorWho yeah, I'll do that now
  77. mrDoctorWho thanks
  78. mrDoctorWho Traceback (most recent call last): https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/dc4f0260-06b2-4fea-93a1-08ceff1c954a
  79. mrDoctorWho this is what happens when you try to select a contact in history manager
  80. lovetox in standalone mode
  81. mrDoctorWho yes
  82. lovetox yeah i fix that
  83. mrDoctorWho thanks!
  84. marmistrz lovetox: do we have to use standard gtk icons?
  85. marmistrz so maybe green and yellow for trust?
  86. lovetox no, if you draw us a svg icon i can use that
  87. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *97ee8082* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/97ee8082fe40baad008f13096c359806ad0e575b > HistoryManager: Load css config in standalone
  88. lovetox ^ mrDoctorWho
  89. mrDoctorWho lovetox, thanks! It was easy, so I kinda fixed it myself :)
  90. mrDoctorWho history manager allows to delete, but not to copy
  91. lovetox you can export
  92. lovetox you can copy conversations in the history window
  93. lovetox the manager is there for mass deletion and export
  94. mrDoctorWho Yeah, but I didn't want to replace my local gajim database, but I needed to search some information in the database from my work pc
  95. lovetox you can do that in the history window
  96. lovetox ah ok in another database
  97. lovetox understand
  98. mrDoctorWho yes
  99. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *f7a139ea* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/f7a139eac2839e068b6e994fc28fed623faa9def > Zeroconf: Store time of outgoing messages
  100. mdosch https://files.mdosch.de:64183/upload/TzJlOHmQ4CLvypWt/2018-09-15_13-57.png
  101. mdosch I can not update plugins with gajim from debian stretch-backports. Is there a known bug or something fucked up with my installation?
  102. mdosch 1.1.0~beta1-1~bpo9+1
  103. bot DorKeinath created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9345 >: #9345: < Send message via terminal >
  104. lovetox try to reinstall the plugin_installer from debian repos
  105. lovetox i think it was outdated
  106. lovetox mdosch,
  107. mdosch lovetox, no change 0.20.0-1~bpo9+1
  108. mdosch Maybe some remains of an old version I should delete. Any hint where to clean up?
  109. lovetox no that version is too old
  110. lovetox here https://ftp.gajim.org/plugins_1/plugin_installer.zip
  111. lovetox try this one
  112. lovetox but you have to restart gajim after installing it
  113. mdosch Works, thx :)
  114. lovetox did you use it on a gajim also from debian backports?
  115. mdosch Yes
  116. bot Daniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9345 >: #9345: < Send message via terminal >
  117. Daniel lovetox, did this come up yet? python-axolotl is mentioned in one of your recent commits, that's why I ask: https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9270
  118. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9270 >: #9270: < Gajim is not build from git master: TypeError: '>=' not supported between instances of 'NoneType' and 'str' >
  119. Daniel Nice :)
  120. marmistrz lovetox: Btw. does GTK provide svg versions of the icons? But let's stick to colors indicating trust and gtk icons.
  121. lovetox yes, its important for scaling
  122. lovetox if someone is on HiDPI screen you have to load bigger icons then on a non-HiDPI
  123. lovetox also coloring a icon without svg would not work
  124. lovetox_ .
  125. lovetox_ .
  126. marmistrz btw., lovetox, the network monitor was a glib2 issue and current glib2 master is working fine
  127. lovetox yeah i saw your ticket
  128. lovetox i have a different problem on windows with this glib version
  129. lovetox so i downgraded
  130. r00tobo HI guys. how do I make gajim doesn't minimze to tray when I close the application ?
  131. Daniel You could search ACE for 'minimize'
  132. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9314 >: #9314: < Gajim lags while typing when using different input method for GTK >
  133. Daniel lovetox, was the 'subscription request' notification covered by sophie's MR about withdrawing notifications? https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9096
  134. lovetox no, still have to look into that
  135. lovetox r00tobo, "hide_on_roster_x"
  136. lovetox make it false
  137. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/3488 >: #3488: < "headline" messages should not ask to be acknowledged >
  138. r00tobo lovetox, where can I find this ?
  139. r00tobo also I don't see any notification coming from gajim in gnome. I don't know why. I use the flatpak version
  140. lovetox advanced config editor
  141. bot Daniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8667 >: #8667: < Avahi error: Error while adding service. >
  142. r00tobo lovetox, it says deactivated
  143. r00tobo what about pop up notification in gajim? I don't see any notification. but sound
  144. lovetox then its you desktop that hides the window
  145. lovetox ah oh wait
  146. lovetox hm no, we dont call hide()
  147. lovetox so you desktop seems to think you dont want stuff in your dock
  148. lovetox maybe some desktop setting
  149. lovetox same with notifications
  150. r00tobo hmm. all other apps are working maybe I should check the notification settings
  151. r00tobo wait
  152. r00tobo ok so it seems to be there in the notification
  153. r00tobo I just make ticked the show message in popups too
  154. r00tobo gnome does a list of all integrated apps for notification and gajim is there
  155. lovetox in gnome gajim has no tray icon
  156. lovetox so it seems you installed mods to achieve this
  157. lovetox and that is probably interfering with the normal behavior
  158. r00tobo lovetox, yea I know that's why I want a way to disable the tray icon
  159. r00tobo I was using kde before
  160. lovetox ok then disable whatever mod you installed that displays it
  161. lovetox or you are talking about a ancient gnome version
  162. r00tobo what kind of modes ?
  163. r00tobo I'm running gnome 3.28
  164. r00tobo I've disabled all extensions in gnome
  165. lovetox gnome does not support tray icons anymore from applications
  166. r00tobo I don't use them
  167. r00tobo yea I know that
  168. lovetox still it is showing there, so some other program puts it there
  169. r00tobo hmmm ok I just got a notification
  170. r00tobo it's showing
  171. r00tobo can you try to menition me
  172. lovetox r00tobo,
  173. r00tobo here I want to see if I will see a notification
  174. lovetox we dont show notifications on mentions
  175. r00tobo I see
  176. r00tobo only for DMs and single messages ?
  177. lovetox DM?
  178. r00tobo lovetox, direct messages between 2 people
  179. lovetox Maranda, is lightwitch.org down?
  180. lovetox i cant connect to it anymore
  181. lovetox ah works now, it seems without srv records its not possible
  182. bot Bernhard Kneip closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9310 >: #9310: < gajim-nightly on debian stretch crashes on startup >
  183. Maranda lovetox, the guest machine might have issues.
  184. Maranda had some lag on ssh previously
  185. Maranda not xmpp though
  186. Maranda lovetox, and no you can't connect without srv records, the xmpp server stays on a different machine.
  187. marmistrz lovetox, starting from now I may be unreachable until 22nd Sep
  188. lovetox yeah, np i finsih this, so locked and unlocked padlocks with colors
  189. bot Philipp Hörist proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/326 >: Add a configurable threshold for MAM in MUC
  190. bot Philipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/326 >: Add a configurable threshold for MAM in MUC
  191. Daniel That threshold sounds reasonable
  192. lovetox lovetox
  193. lovetox concerto, the thing you wanted that you can reply to the last person that highlighted you
  194. lovetox works already
  195. lovetox you just have to press TAB, on a empty message input
  196. concerto lovetox: that's useful, but not quite what I meant, which was something like this - 1. the user types a part of a nick and presses <TAB> 2. check if the string has any capital letters 3a. if it does, search case-sensitively for the last nick starting with that string and complete to it. 3b. if it doesn't, search case-insensitively for the last nick starting with that string and complete to it. (I guess that's one possible way of thinking about it)
  197. Daniel So you want the last person who spoke, not the last one who highlighted you
  198. concerto Yeah. The same logic can be used for the last person who highlighted you, too - but perhaps "last person who highlighted you whose name starts with $string" is more accurate. :)
  199. concerto but it might not be so nice - might lead to unexpected (for the user) completions.
  200. concerto but 'last person who highlighted' might not be so nice - might lead to unexpected (for the user) completions.
  201. Daniel In #9060 there is an idea proposed for this: have a popup with suggestions, so you press tab and then chose a nick (last one who mentioned you at first position, then the last who spoke, ..) with arrow keys
  202. concerto might be overkill for an IM app ;)
  203. Daniel No?! :D
  204. concerto (but Riot does do something like that)
  205. lovetox tab must be enough ..
  206. lovetox yeah we can apply a bit more logic to it, but thats it then
  207. Daniel Now, pressing tab inserts the nick plus one comma plus space?
  208. Daniel Sorry for asking stupid questions, don't have Gajim available atm
  209. lovetox yes
  210. Daniel So if somebody would develop that popover feature (which could be used for commands as well) you'd just have to hit space for a nick to be selected/printed (so one key more)
  211. Daniel But yes, simple feature, too much ideas
  212. Daniel *many
  213. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9341 >: #9341: < Autojoin (MUC) setting lost after restarting gajim >
  214. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9339 >: #9339: < Traceback and missed notifications >
  215. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9201 >: #9201: < Double exception during connection loss >
  216. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8771 >: #8771: < Connection fails if trying to connect using TOR >
  217. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8771 >: #8771: < Connection fails if trying to connect using TOR >
  218. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9207 >: #9207: < Network disconnect throws TypeError: disconnect() got an unexpected keyword argument 'err_message' >
  219. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/344 >: #344: < Open up wiki for public edit >
  220. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/278 >: #278: < [OMEMO] - untrusting fingerprints does not work with Gajim v1.0.0 and omemo 2.5.7 >
  221. bot DorKeinath created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9346 >: #9346: < send_chat_message vs. send_single_message >
  222. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9346 >: #9346: < send_chat_message vs. send_single_message >
  223. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *49ca2382* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/49ca2382520befee87a8fd4646534f1fff1f7b31 > Fix len-as-condition pylint errors
  224. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *8d9fe9e2* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/8d9fe9e2e11117255367f38ece7a87cd71abedef > Update pylint error list Check for C1801 len-as-condition
  225. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *50e44543* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/50e44543f3d4254fa2952c22b2a1e51eca9ff6fb > Fix len-as-condition pylint error