Gajim - 2018-08-23


  1. Daniel Yesterday I was editing the GSoC page on the wiki and now I'm curious: Until 2011 there were many successful projects, implementing Bosh, Plugin system, Stream management, ... After 2011 there are no entries. Were there no projects? If so, why? asterix, could you tell me the story? :)
  2. Maranda Daniel: *speculates* no students?
  3. asterix Daniel: there was some years during which XSF did not apply. And noe I don't know. I don't see XSF calling for projects anymore. Moreover, I don't have time unfortunatly to mentor students during the summer
  4. MattJ Yes, some years the XSF did not apply, and I think the last application (this year?) was not accepted
  5. MattJ Oh, apparently the XSF did participate in 2017
  6. MattJ 2016 applied but not accepted
  7. MattJ 2015 applied and accepted. Ok, so it was on most years I think :)
  8. Maranda :O
  9. Daniel Thank you for the insights!
  10. lovetox Its not a gift
  11. lovetox we dont get anything for free
  12. lovetox most students have no clue
  13. lovetox you have to hold hand and invest huge amounts of time
  14. lovetox 1. in selecting the right student if you are lucky and more than one applies
  15. lovetox 2. with mentoring
  16. lovetox in this time i can write it myself
  17. Maranda 🤣 🤣 🤣
  18. Zash Yeah, it's not a way to get quality code written for free.
  19. Daniel But don't you also bring students close to the project, so they potentially invest more time themselves later on?
  20. Zash Getting them into contributing to FOSS is probably the thing to hope and aim for
  21. MattJ Yes, if you are lucky they will stay
  22. MattJ If they were just after something to do over the summer and earn some money, they won't
  23. Maranda Also wasn't there some requirement for Mentoring? E.g. degree etc?
  24. MattJ No requirement
  25. MattJ Well, at least there wasn't when I was a student/mentor
  26. Zash Selling your soul to Google?
  27. MattJ Zash, they gave me a t-shirt in exchange!
  28. Maranda MattJ, pic or didn't happen :P
  29. SouL Don't sell me plz :(
  30. SouL I wanted to be a student
  31. SouL but I'm not a student so I can't
  32. MattJ :'(
  33. SouL (I didn't want money, just someone to mentor me on a project or something)
  34. MattJ SouL, if there's a certain project you'd be interested on working on, just ask
  35. MattJ and there are other GSoC-like things as well, that aren't so well known because they aren't run by Google
  36. MattJ But I'm pretty sure most open-source projects would welcome some interest from someone who is actually interested
  37. asterix Nome of the student that participated stayed arround
  38. Daniel That's sad. Did you mentor all of the projects at the time or were there other maintainers back then?
  39. SouL MattJ, good good, I take notes about it :P
  40. bot Hayley Tilde created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9306 >: #9306: < Attempting to quit while disconnected results in a fatal error and Gajim not quitting >
  41. bot Hayley Tilde modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9306 >: #9306: < Attempting to quit while disconnected results in an error and Gajim not quitting >
  42. Maranda :P
  43. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9306 >: #9306: < Attempting to quit while disconnected results in an error and Gajim not quitting >
  44. asterix I mentored all projects
  45. Daniel Wow, six years in a row
  46. bot Sophie Herold proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/320 >: Show avatar in new message notifications
  47. bot Sophie Herold proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/321 >: Unify to use app.get_account_label()
  48. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8811 >: #8811: < Audio/Video session throws errors. >
  49. apollo13 hi there, if I want to run the newest gajim version what should I run? master branch? 1.1 branch?
  50. apollo13 I am getting this in the xml console: https://dpaste.de/FJ7K/raw -- is that normal or do I need to enable something in prosody?
  51. lovetox apollo13, master
  52. lovetox and yes this is normal
  53. f1refly lovetox, is your messagewindow branch working?
  54. lovetox yes
  55. lovetox but i shoul update it
  56. lovetox wait a bit
  57. f1refly I'm keeping some of my friends up to date with the gajim development, but when i cloned it today it won't launch anymore :/
  58. f1refly But thank you, I'll try figuring it out
  59. f1refly Just wanted to know if it's my fault
  60. lovetox i update the branch
  61. lovetox then you can test
  62. f1refly thank you :)
  63. ivucica > Its not a gift > we dont get anything for free > most students have no clue > you have to hold hand and invest huge amounts of time > 1. in selecting the right student if you are lucky and more than one applies > 2. with mentoring > in this time i can write it myself This, sadly.
  64. bot Philipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/merge_requests/310 >: WIP: New Message Window
  65. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: *bf64d040* < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/bf64d040467d6a8d5e3ce1877db62c3f0f24efab > Appveyor: add cssutils dependency
  66. lovetox firefly you can try now
  67. lovetox we have new dependency
  68. lovetox cssutils>=1.0.2
  69. lovetox make sure its installed
  70. f1refly Already did
  71. f1refly Works now /thumbsup
  72. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/8308 >: #8308: < Jingle Audio/Video usage is unstable >
  73. porrier Can someone here explain what triggers the red X in Gajim when I write a message?
  74. porrier Could this be a problem with the mobile-/data-connection?
  75. bot Daniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/7303 >: #7303: < Error on try to accept an invitation to an audio call >
  76. bot Daniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/6117 >: #6117: < Audio/video does not work >
  77. bot Daniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/7245 >: #7245: < Video does not work >
  78. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/7464 >: #7464: < Make Audio/Video calls possible when using Zeroconf/Bonjour >
  79. bot Daniel Brötzmann modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/7464 >: #7464: < Make Audio/Video calls possible when using Zeroconf/Bonjour >
  80. bot Daniel Brötzmann closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/7626 >: #7626: < Audio/Video devices not available in Preferences >
  81. porrier When I write a message to a user, a red X is shown in Gajim. What does this mean. My users report the message was received.
  82. lovetox Gajim version?
  83. lovetox it means we didnt receive a receipt
  84. lovetox which does in itself mean nothing really
  85. lovetox you can disable that in preferences
  86. lovetox first site, one of the bottom checkboxes
  87. porrier lovetox: The question is what triggers "recipient not received"? Could this be a problem with the dataconnection? Other users with other clients report such problems too. "delivery failed" with conversations for example.
  88. lovetox not worth to investigate, we removed that red X altogether with Gajim 1.0
  89. porrier ok. But there must be someting strange with the wire or somesuch.
  90. lovetox i would not try to deduce anything from this
  91. lovetox there are a lot of reasons why this shows up
  92. lovetox its not an indication of a bad server connection
  93. porrier hm, my users are confused about this error messages.
  94. lovetox thats why i told you to disable it
  95. porrier They use conversations and get this error too.
  96. lovetox or switch to a more recent version of Gajim
  97. porrier Can't install Gajim on my openSUSE Leap 42.3
  98. porrier I mean Gajim 1.x