Gajim - 2018-05-12


  1. rom1dep lovetox: any UX goodies to test these days?
  2. bot Robin Müller created an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues/311 >: #311: < Triggers plugin doesn't apply rules if rule['has_focus'] != 'both' and rule['tab_opened'] != 'no' >
  3. bot Robin Müller created an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9124 >: #9124: < Click on notification doesn't refocus the chat window >
  4. bot Robin Müller modified an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9124 >: #9124: < Click on notification doesn't refocus the chat window >
  5. marmistrz lovetox, it looks like the box for composing the messages doesn't react on the mouse wheel scroll and the top of the message is hidden, even though there's still place below (see screenshot in a while)
  6. marmistrz the second issue happens when the line is broken
  7. marmistrz should I report it on GitLab?
  8. marmistrz https://upload.wiuwiu.de/upload/1gRd4DMX_XgpQn1e/Screenshot%2520from%25202018-05-12%252019-36-21.png
  9. lovetox there is already a issue about it
  10. marmistrz about both of them?
  11. marmistrz btw. lovetox, please mention me when replying, otherwise I may miss your answer ;)
  12. lovetox marmistrz, its one and the same issue
  13. marmistrz lovetox, thanks
  14. lovetox mouse scroll works fine if you test it with normal line breaks
  15. lovetox its a displaying bug, gtk thinks it shows you everything, so scroll has no effect
  16. marmistrz lovetox: it looks like gajim and conversations use a different markup for formatting
  17. marmistrz It would be nice to have it consistent. e.g. **foo** is not displayed as bold in Conversations and *foo* is italic in Gajim IIRC. _foo_ will be italic in Conversations and underlined in Gajim.
  18. lovetox yeah and did you survey all the other xmpp clients and look what they do?
  19. lovetox * makes things bold,
  20. lovetox _ makes it underlined
  21. lovetox / makes it italic
  22. lovetox im not sure its so important that it is consistent, with all these things you put somekind of emphasis on a word
  23. lovetox its not like bold means something different than underlined
  24. Link Mauve I generally use bold for emphasis, underlined for book titles, and italics for foreign words, expressions or sentences.
  25. Link Mauve And links (which generally end up underlined and in blue) for links.
  26. Link Mauve With the exception of bold, this is the approximate convention in French typography.
  27. marmistrz I often use bold for emphasis and italics when introducing some new term.
  28. Link Mauve But this whole “it’s plain text but let’s interpret it somehow” idea is really stupid.
  29. Link Mauve We have ways to convey rich text on XMPP, just use it.
  30. Link Mauve Even if Conversations refuses to implement it.
  31. marmistrz The problem is that the symmetric difference of the supported markup is not empty, so people just get weird signs without them being interpreted by the client
  32. Link Mauve marmistrz, XHTML-IM is designed to not leave any interpretation to the receiving end, so everyone displays it the same way.
  33. Link Mauve This is what you use in Gajim’s a menu on the right of the smileys button.
  34. marmistrz The end users want a consistent UX. That's the bottom line. What I mean is; guys, just talk with each other in a MUC, settle one variant and follow it. Actually, many of my contacts use Conversations exclusively, so I need to use what Conversations support.
  35. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim >: https://conference.gajim.org:5281/pastebin/5616dcba-ab41-4489-a40e-f9418f635f7e
  36. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues/9124 >: #9124: < Click on notification doesn't refocus the chat window >
  37. lovetox marmistrz, you see xmpp exists for 2 decades
  38. lovetox people use certain markup in certain ways for years in their clients