Gajim - 2018-03-26

  1. concerto Asterix: yay, new version ^^
  2. concerto (thanks!)
  3. concerto Should I open a ticket about the emoji-quoting problem?
  4. lovetox yes concerto
  5. bot Thomas Arendsen Hein created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #8999: < gajim's license needs OpenSSL exception >
  6. lovetox Asterix, are we now GPL3.0 only or GPL3.0 and later
  7. lovetox this topic suggests in the end GPL3.0 or later was ok for some members
  8. Asterix We are v3 only
  9. anotheragency ?
  10. mrDoctorWho hey guys, gajim seem to display conversations' last user interaction feature as an available presence
  11. mrDoctorWho we haven't had this feature back in gajim 0.16
  12. mrDoctorWho so we now have this in message view ‎[03:22:42 PM] ‎mrdoctorwho/Conversations.MVK6 is now Available ‎[03:22:44 PM] ‎mrdoctorwho/Conversations.MVK6 is now Available ‎[03:22:45 PM] ‎mrdoctorwho/Conversations.MVK6 is now Available
  13. SaltyBones what is this?
  14. SaltyBones [03:22:45 PM] ‎mrdoctorwho/Conversations.MVK6 is now Available
  15. mrDoctorWho > so we now have this in message view
  16. mrDoctorWho supposedly, that's how gajim handles conversations' last user interaction now
  17. SaltyBones what s that?
  18. bot Alexander Grebenyuk created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9000: < unicode emoticons are not displayed on windows if font-emoticons is set >
  19. jubalh is in gajim 1.0 this strange gajim-only-encryption disabled by default?
  20. lovetox mrDoctorWho, thats just a available presence
  21. lovetox and we display since forever all status changes
  22. lovetox i believe you can disable that it shows in chat
  23. mrDoctorWho lovetox, it wasn't there before
  24. mrDoctorWho it's a bug either in gajim or conversations
  25. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9000: < unicode emoticons are not displayed on windows if font-emoticons is set >
  26. mrDoctorWho >and we display since forever all status changes even available to available?
  27. lovetox we just display what we get, we dont look what the status was before
  28. lovetox but thats a good idea to do that
  29. lovetox mrDoctorWho please creat a ticket with screenshot for that
  30. mrDoctorWho Ok, sure
  31. mrDoctorWho Here's what I got from the xml console <!-- Incoming Mon 26 Mar 2018 05:19:15 PM +07 --> <presence to='xxx' from=''> <c ver='zwjgdidUrRHnURC1zbjclCgO2GQ=' hash='sha-1' node='' xmlns=''/> <idle xmlns='urn:xmpp:idle:1' since='2018-03-26T10:19:02.262Z'/> <x xmlns='vcard-temp:x:update'> <photo>da1b23aa5b84f40f35054b2e6c0ff688ab9e67d9</photo> </x> </presence>
  32. mrDoctorWho It seems that conversations sends that regularly
  33. mrDoctorWho probably gajim improperly handles XEP-0319, or doesn't support it at all
  34. mrDoctorWho
  35. bot John Smith created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9001: < Gajim seem to improperly handle XEP 0319 >
  36. bot John Smith modified an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9001: < Don't show status update if the previous status is same as the new one >
  37. lovetox Asterix, could you update mod_mam_muc
  38. lovetox
  39. lovetox this is an important fix
  40. bot Philipp Hörist modified an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9000: < unicode emoticons are not displayed on windows if font-emoticons is set >
  41. bot Girts created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9002: < This message on start of gajim >
  42. pvoigt I have just upgraded to gajim-nightly-2018-03-26 and it seems completely broken: It starts without errors but a lot of menues are missing and I cannot connect to any account (that's why I use bitlbee right now).
  43. pvoigt Unfortunately, the previous nightly is not available anymore.
  44. pvoigt Is this issue already known or may it be OS dependent? I am using Debian Stretch 9.4.
  45. bot N K I created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9003: < Unable to install OMEMO Plugin. gajim running on Win 10. >
  46. bot Yann Leboulanger created an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < >: #286: < Unable to install OMEMO Plugin. gajim running on Win 10. >
  47. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9003: < Unable to install OMEMO Plugin. gajim running on Win 10. >
  48. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _gajim-plugins_ < >: #286: < Unable to install OMEMO Plugin. gajim running on Win 10. >
  49. pvoigt Is there a chance to install previous the nightly, e.g. gajim-nightly-2018-01-21?
  50. lovetox no, why?
  51. pvoigt Because current nightly is broken as mentioned a few lines above ;-)
  52. jubalh where do i find the plugins settings in the new gajim? :)
  53. pvoigt jubalh: I would like to know this as well. It looks like some menues are missing and I am unable to connect to any account: "(W) gajim.c.resolver Could not resolve host: No DNS record of the requested type for..."
  54. pvoigt OK, just figured out: The passwords must all be re-entered in Gajim then login works again. The above DNS error is misleading, you get better information with DEBUG logging.
  55. jubalh my passwords still work ;)
  56. jubalh but didnt find the plugins yet
  57. pvoigt Yes, plugins are still missing. I also miss a "quit" menue entry.
  58. pvoigt I suppose, my passwords did not work because I have saved them to Gnome password manager.
  59. pvoigt jubalh: Do you know where Gajim stores account passwords?
  60. lovetox pvoigt, in whatever password manager you use
  61. lovetox jubalh, the menu is in the global menu
  62. lovetox if you use gnome
  63. lovetox and you should not need debug logging to find out that you have no password set in gajim or its false
  64. lovetox you look at the roster and see the connection status of your account
  65. lovetox and it should tell you if it cant login to your account
  66. pvoigt lovetox: The default Gnome 3 password manager..
  67. lovetox so then open it and look into it if the password is stored there
  68. lovetox do you have python3-keyring installed?
  69. lovetox otherwise gajim will save the password in plaintext in your config file /.local/share/gajim
  70. pvoigt aka Gnome 3 keyring. And yes, the password are there and they are all correct but in spite of this I had to re-enter them within Gajim
  71. pvoigt lovetox: I have python-keyring but not python3-keyring. So this is all messed with the update.
  72. jubalh lovetox, thanks
  73. jubalh when it looks for available plugins it loads a very long time
  74. jubalh without actually showing something in the list
  75. pvoigt lovetox: To be honest, I do not find the file with the plaintext passwords under .local/share/gajim.
  76. jubalh but i have to say, now gajim is very nice :)
  77. pvoigt lovetox: And thanks - the global menu ;-)
  78. pvoigt lovetox, jubalh: I have installed the plugins via "git clone"
  79. lovetox jubalh, on what system are you?
  80. lovetox its generally now better you install gajim from your distri repo and also plugins
  81. lovetox pvoigt sorry /.config/gajim
  82. jubalh lovetox, i always install from my distro repo ;)
  83. jubalh it loaded the plugins now, just took way longer than usual. but maybe its my network
  84. jubalh lovetox, openSUSE
  85. lovetox hm ok, so open suse doesnt package plugins extra
  86. lovetox fine with me
  87. pvoigt lovetox: I have post-installed" python3-keyring python3-keyrings.alt python3-secretstorage", deleted the entres from Gnome keyring and checked ~/.config/gajim/config:
  88. pvoigt = keyring:
  89. pvoigt How can the keyring be used, if the entry is deleted? Or do I have to restart Gnome?
  90. bot Philipp Hörist created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9004: < Provide more Emoji sets on Windows >
  91. lovetox pvoigt, im not sure what you mean
  92. lovetox if the password file says keyring, password is in the keyring
  93. lovetox if you delete it there, gajim should not be able to login, and will present a error message
  94. lovetox but the password is cached by gajim, so unless you restart gajim, keyring will not be queried
  95. n00b Hello, I added gajim repository and installed gajim by doing `apt install gajim-nightly` as it says on this page ; Now it says Gajim needs GTK+ >= 3.20.0 to run. What should I do?
  96. nico seems to be fixed since today 🙂
  97. lovetox n00b, install a newer GTK version
  98. pvoigt lovetox: It's still not clear to me in every detail. I post-installed python3-keyring python3-keyrings.alt python3-secretstorage
  99. pvoigt Then I had to re-enter the password within Gajim.
  100. lovetox if keyring is not installed, gajim stores the password in plain text
  101. pvoigt And right now I see that this obviously caused new entries to Gnome keyring. I detleted the old ones.
  102. lovetox if you install it afterwards, it deletes the password from config
  103. lovetox and you reenter it to store in keyring
  104. lovetox did you upgrade from 0.16?
  105. lovetox before we didnt use python3-keyring, we had our own impl that communitcated with the password storage
  106. pvoigt I upgraded from previous nightly, don't know the exact version.
  107. lovetox keyring uses another profile, so the passwords could not be migrated
  108. lovetox if you only used nightly then i have no idea why the password suddenly have to be reentered
  109. pvoigt OK, in my case it was obviously neccessary to re-enter the passwords.
  110. lovetox just monitor it, and tell me if it happens again
  111. pvoigt lovetox: Currently, all seems to work: no plain text passwords and usage of gnome-keyring. I will do some more tests, e.g. like a password change and report back my observations. Thanks so far.
  112. Asterix nico, lovetox: today is the first nightly on py3 branch
  113. lovetox Asterix did you see my message about the mod_mam_muc module?
  114. nayn Is it stable version? For not developers?
  115. bot Romain Porte created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9005: < Bug in file transfert accept button's text >
  116. bot Yann Leboulanger pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < >: *5353f770* < > Fix button text. Fixes #9005
  117. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9005: < Bug in file transfert accept button's text >
  118. n00b Is there a way to install gajim on Linux Mint (xfce shell) ? I wrote down my settings and troubles here:
  119. bot Abdulla created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9006: < Can't launch gajim after update some packages >
  120. lovetox no n00b we seem to be incompatible with 3.20
  121. lovetox needs 3.22
  122. n00b lovetox: I added gnome3 repository into my source.list
  123. lovetox yeah but 3.20 is not enough
  124. lovetox sorry
  125. lovetox i dont know what is in that gnome repo for your distro
  126. n00b lovetox: sholdn't this command "sudo apt dist-upgrade" upgrate to last gtk3 ?
  127. lovetox i guess it will provide the latest that is possible for your system
  128. lovetox start gajim -> Help -> About
  129. lovetox it displays the gtk version
  130. Asterix He can't start Gajim it seems or it fails later?
  131. n00b lovetox: Which release should I install ? In my ubuntu repo placed gajim 0.14. But when I tried to install OMEMO plugin it says need gajim >= 0.16. Maybe compiling 0.16 branch will be better for me?
  132. n00b Gajim settings
  133. Asterix 0.14? Your distro is 4 yars old?
  134. lovetox then just install gajim 0.16.9
  135. Asterix Sorry, 8 yars old ...
  136. Asterix It has python2 or only python 1 😁
  137. Asterix lovetox: you know for what reasons we need gtk > 3.18? It seems most ubuntu users don't have more than that ...
  138. Asterix Of course there is this get_monitor ...
  139. lovetox get_monitor is not anymore in source
  140. lovetox it was patched out
  141. lovetox i guess we could get rid of set_max_content_height for scrolled window
  142. lovetox its also only on 3.22
  143. lovetox but going below 3.20 and you will miss css stuff
  144. Asterix Ho conversation removed otr support too
  145. lovetox also ubuntu 18.04 is scheduled for 26.4.2018
  146. lovetox and it has 3.22
  147. Asterix Ok then no interest in going to 3.20 I think
  148. lovetox but this is mostly GTKs fault
  149. lovetox GTK3 was never advertised as a dev branch
  150. lovetox and from 3.0 -> 3.22 they broke so many apis
  151. lovetox GTK4 is now advertised as a dev branch, and people are warned to not develop stable software against it, until it is finished in 2 years
  152. Asterix I hopethe GTK3 to 4 will be much more easy than 2 to 3
  153. lovetox so if someone comes to you and tells you, hey do a gtk4 gajim branch
  154. lovetox just say no 🙂
  155. Asterix Hehe so no new GTK version in the next 2 yars?
  156. lovetox Asterix, this cant be answered, GTK4 development has started a few months ago
  157. lovetox and is not finished until 2 years in the future
  158. lovetox so there is no way to tell now how easy a upgrade will be
  159. lovetox of course distris will again ship some versions of GTK4 long before GTK4 is finished, and that will lead people to believe applications should upgrade
  160. Asterix Let'sfirst continue and ficus on GTK3, there is enough work
  161. lovetox concerto, i did now reproduce your mam bug when coming out of standby
  162. bot Polynomdivision proposed a new merge request for _gajim/master_ < >: Fix gtk scrolledwindow
  163. bot Philipp Hörist updated a merge request for _gajim/master_ < >: WIP: Fix gtk scrolledwindow
  164. ibikk Hi there. I installed gajim nightly from your repository on debian 9.4, but its omemo plugin is not satisfied with my version of python-axolotl (has been automatically installed via apt). How to easily install a version which makes gajim+omemo work?
  165. lovetox did you install omemo from apt?
  166. lovetox there is a package for that, which should manage all dependencys
  167. lovetox oh you said you did
  168. lovetox hm
  169. lovetox
  170. lovetox package seems to be correct with its dependencys
  171. lovetox can youif you start gajim from console
  172. lovetox there should be a error message printed
  173. lovetox please show us that
  174. ibikk But I don't use sid. I have python-axolotl 0.1.35-3...but it doesnt depend on omemo-something? Strange.
  175. ibikk Startup message: (E) gajim.plugin_system.omemo No module named 'axolotl'
  176. lovetox you need python3-axolotl
  177. ibikk yes, it already is.
  178. lovetox no you said python-axolotl
  179. lovetox thats something different
  180. ibikk yes, my fault.
  181. lovetox em, no check again, this error message says definitly that there is no package axolotl
  182. lovetox it has nothing to do with version
  183. lovetox you can also start your python console
  184. lovetox and do import axolotl
  185. ibikk gajim-omemo 1.0.0-2 is installed, depends on there is no "3"...
  186. ibikk python3 says: ImportError: No module named 'axolotl'
  187. lovetox sorry about what gajim version are we even talking
  188. lovetox this is a stone age omemo version
  189. ibikk gajim 1.0.0
  190. lovetox
  191. lovetox look it depends on gajim 0.16
  192. lovetox you can install gajim-omemo from stretch-backports
  193. ibikk yes, but >=0.16.5-1...1.0 is greater or equal ;-)
  194. lovetox thats true
  195. lovetox but its a debian fault
  196. lovetox 0.16 is not compatible with gajim 1.0
  197. lovetox in backports you have to correct package
  198. ibikk I'll look out for stretch-backports...
  199. ibikk thanks a lot!
  200. lovetox np :)
  201. bot Polynomdivision created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9007: < Ubunt 16.04 Gajim1.0 port? >
  202. bot Polynomdivision modified an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9007: < Ubunt 16.04 Gajim1.0 port? >
  203. bot Polynomdivision modified an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9007: < Ubunt 16.04 Gajim1.0 port? >
  204. bot Polynomdivision modified an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9007: < Ubunt 16.04 Gajim1.0 port? >
  205. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9007: < Ubunt 16.04 Gajim1.0 port? >
  206. bot Philipp Hörist closed a merge request for _gajim/master_ < >: WIP: Fix gtk scrolledwindow
  207. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < >: *4f1ba653* < > Raise min GTK version to 3.22 *1d2c3d9f* < > Raise min Python version to 3.5
  208. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9006: < Can't launch gajim after update some packages >
  209. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9002: < This message on start of gajim >
  210. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < >: *4ef15d4a* < > Fix version check
  211. Asterix lovetox, mam_muc reloaded
  212. lovetox thanks
  213. Asterix lovetox, current 1.0 branch release also depends on 3.22 right?
  214. lovetox yes
  215. Asterix ok. We should cherry pick things from time to time so it's available in gajim-daily
  216. lovetox ah k yes, i will do this today
  217. lovetox im on the zlib thing
  218. lovetox it does not help to set a path
  219. lovetox but i think gtk takes some other path var then the windows one
  220. bot bodtx created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9008: < Gajim needs GTK+ >= 3.20.0 to run. Quitting... >
  221. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9008: < Gajim needs GTK+ >= 3.20.0 to run. Quitting... >
  222. lovetox so many people use ubuntu 16.04
  223. bot ratatouille created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9009: < Can't >
  224. bot Yann Leboulanger closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9009: < Can't >
  225. Asterix They install from our repos?
  226. Asterix I can do a new 1.0 package that depends on 3.22
  227. lovetox i guess, i can imagine ubuntu 16.04 has access to debian testing
  228. Asterix no idea
  229. lovetox would this prevent them from installing?
  230. lovetox are the deps checked before install?
  231. Asterix yes of course
  232. lovetox k nice we should do this
  233. lovetox its bad that they install then cant go back
  234. lovetox or can they?
  235. bot ratatouille created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9010: < Issue deleted or blocked >
  236. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9010: < Issue deleted or blocked >
  237. Asterix they can go back if they still have the package in the apt cache ...
  238. Asterix but not automatically for sure
  239. Asterix lovetox, Ha I was also thinking about passwords ... shouldn't we clear accoutn password when converting from 0.x to 1.x if it is gnomekeyring: or kwallet:?
  240. Asterix ok gajim_1.0.0 from our repos now depends on 3.22
  241. Asterix Gajim-daily dans gajim-default-daily will this night
  242. lovetox you mean clear in the config, or delete from the keyring?
  243. Asterix delete from config, currently it tries to use gnomekeyring: as the passwd to connect
  244. Asterix from the keyring it's not possible with our current dependencies
  245. scarletflame $ ./ Traceback (most recent call last): File "./", line 3, in <module> from gajim import gajim File "/home/andreas/gajim/gajim/", line 46, in <module> import gi File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/gi/", line 39 print url ^ SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean print(t url)?
  246. scarletflame oh, no pastebin
  247. Asterix you have a python-gi installed in a python3 dir?!?!
  248. Asterix pastbin for longer messages
  249. scarletflame I did a pip3.6 install gi
  250. Asterix "print url" is not py3 code,
  251. scarletflame hm
  252. scarletflame don't know
  253. scarletflame /usr/bin/python3 is a symlink to /usr/bin/python3.6
  254. Asterix just run python3 from a terminal and type "import gi" in it
  255. scarletflame >>> import gi Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/gi/", line 39 print url ^ SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean print(t url)?
  256. Asterix yes so that's clearly the problem
  257. Asterix git gi installation isn't good
  258. Asterix your gi installation isn't good
  259. scarletflame Is this python-gitdb.x86_64 that is requried?
  260. Asterix no we don't need that
  261. scarletflame There is no package python-gi on CentOS 7.
  262. lovetox has your distribution not a package for GTK?
  263. scarletflame hm, I'll look
  264. scarletflame yum search gtk gives so much output
  265. Asterix should be something like gir1.2-gtk-3.0
  266. lovetox whatever you install with "gi"
  267. lovetox you should uninstall it
  268. scarletflame yum search gir gives bpg-ingiri-fonts.noarch : Ingiri family of BPG Georgian fonts girara-devel.x86_64 : Development files for girara rubygem-nokogiri-doc.x86_64 : Documentation for rubygem-nokogiri girara.x86_64 : Simple user interface library ngircd.x86_64 : Next Generation IRC Daemon rubygem-nokogiri.x86_64 : An HTML, XML, SAX, and Reader parser
  269. lovetox try this
  270. lovetox
  271. scarletflame I did a pip3.6 uninstall gi
  272. lovetox this package is it
  273. lovetox but it seems its for python2
  274. lovetox hm
  275. scarletflame Means cannot run gajim 1.0?
  276. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 33 commits to branch _refs/heads/gajim_1.0_ of _gajim_ < >:
  277. lovetox dont know, maybe talk to some centos guy that packages applications maybe he can help fix all dependencys
  278. scarletflame ok, I'll see if I can find one. Thank you!
  279. n00b lovetox: is OpenPGP plugin available in 0.16.9 version?
  280. lovetox yes
  281. lovetox no its not a plugin
  282. lovetox its integrated in gajim
  283. n00b in modify account it says "OpenPGP is not usable on this computer"
  284. lovetox you probably need to install gpg
  285. lovetox either gpg or python-gnupg
  286. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ < >:
  287. bot Philipp Hörist closed an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9001: < Don't show status update if the previous status is same as the new one >
  288. bot JuniorJPDJ created an issue in _gajim_ < >: #9011: < Can't drag&drop image from notification in KDE >