Gajim - 2017-11-13


  1. concerto Yikes
  2. concerto Yikes
  3. concerto Yikes
  4. concerto I suddenly see no contacts in my contacts list! o.o
  5. concerto I suddenly see no contacts in my contacts list! o.o
  6. concerto I suddenly see no contacts in my contacts list! o.o
  7. concerto it just says "jabber.fr (18/24)" and that's that
  8. concerto it just says "jabber.fr (18/24)" and that's that
  9. concerto it just says "jabber.fr (18/24)" and that's that
  10. concerto (I also see no group chats)
  11. concerto (I also see no group chats)
  12. concerto (I also see no group chats)
  13. concerto Fixed with a restart...
  14. concerto Fixed with a restart...
  15. concerto Fixed with a restart...
  16. SaltyBones hm....is it possible that the plugins menu is currently unreachable?
  17. SaltyBones hm....is it possible that the plugins menu is currently unreachable?
  18. SaltyBones hm....is it possible that the plugins menu is currently unreachable?
  19. lovetox SaltyBones, no its where it was always
  20. lovetox SaltyBones, no its where it was always
  21. lovetox SaltyBones, no its where it was always
  22. lovetox Application Menu -> Plugins
  23. lovetox Application Menu -> Plugins
  24. lovetox Application Menu -> Plugins
  25. SaltyBones lovetox, good morning
  26. SaltyBones lovetox, good morning
  27. SaltyBones lovetox, good morning
  28. SaltyBones what is the application menu?
  29. SaltyBones what is the application menu?
  30. SaltyBones what is the application menu?
  31. SaltyBones oh!
  32. SaltyBones oh!
  33. SaltyBones oh!
  34. SaltyBones I found it
  35. SaltyBones I found it
  36. SaltyBones I found it
  37. SaltyBones trying out xfce and it only shows "accounts", "view", "help"
  38. SaltyBones trying out xfce and it only shows "accounts", "view", "help"
  39. SaltyBones trying out xfce and it only shows "accounts", "view", "help"
  40. SaltyBones for the other menu you have to click the icon in the title bar xD
  41. SaltyBones for the other menu you have to click the icon in the title bar xD
  42. SaltyBones for the other menu you have to click the icon in the title bar xD
  43. SaltyBones computer interfaces are so retarded xD
  44. SaltyBones computer interfaces are so retarded xD
  45. SaltyBones computer interfaces are so retarded xD
  46. lovetox hm thats a pain, for windows it shows a additional menu, i guess we should do this for xcfe also
  47. lovetox hm thats a pain, for windows it shows a additional menu, i guess we should do this for xcfe also
  48. lovetox hm thats a pain, for windows it shows a additional menu, i guess we should do this for xcfe also
  49. SaltyBones I don't know. None of this makes sense to me anyway.
  50. SaltyBones I don't know. None of this makes sense to me anyway.
  51. SaltyBones I don't know. None of this makes sense to me anyway.
  52. SaltyBones I liked when everything simply had a menu bar.
  53. SaltyBones I liked when everything simply had a menu bar.
  54. SaltyBones I liked when everything simply had a menu bar.
  55. SaltyBones And I especially hate those modern things where you have a bunch of menus but you don't know where. :)
  56. SaltyBones And I especially hate those modern things where you have a bunch of menus but you don't know where. :)
  57. SaltyBones And I especially hate those modern things where you have a bunch of menus but you don't know where. :)
  58. SaltyBones I mean at least on my phone it sort of makes sense to have these 3 dot menus because there is no space and even there it is the only menu in a good app.
  59. SaltyBones I mean at least on my phone it sort of makes sense to have these 3 dot menus because there is no space and even there it is the only menu in a good app.
  60. SaltyBones I mean at least on my phone it sort of makes sense to have these 3 dot menus because there is no space and even there it is the only menu in a good app.
  61. lovetox i plan to move the menu button into the menubar
  62. lovetox i plan to move the menu button into the menubar
  63. lovetox i plan to move the menu button into the menubar
  64. lovetox so no buttons anymore in the title bar
  65. lovetox so no buttons anymore in the title bar
  66. lovetox so no buttons anymore in the title bar
  67. lovetox as i learned this is bad on some systems because then GTK window decorations are used, instead of the one from the current window manager
  68. lovetox as i learned this is bad on some systems because then GTK window decorations are used, instead of the one from the current window manager
  69. lovetox as i learned this is bad on some systems because then GTK window decorations are used, instead of the one from the current window manager
  70. SaltyBones probably a good idea
  71. SaltyBones probably a good idea
  72. SaltyBones probably a good idea
  73. SaltyBones ideally I think there should not be more than one menu
  74. SaltyBones ideally I think there should not be more than one menu
  75. SaltyBones ideally I think there should not be more than one menu
  76. ThibG hm
  77. ThibG hm
  78. ThibG hm
  79. ThibG I am for using the title bar thing, that's where GNOME and Gtk3 are going, but I understand the concern
  80. ThibG I am for using the title bar thing, that's where GNOME and Gtk3 are going, but I understand the concern
  81. ThibG I am for using the title bar thing, that's where GNOME and Gtk3 are going, but I understand the concern
  82. lovetox it just look really shitty on some system
  83. lovetox it just look really shitty on some system
  84. lovetox it just look really shitty on some system
  85. lovetox because the native window decorations are used for windows where nothing is in the titlebar, but when i put gtk widgets there, gtk does the rendering, and so you get inconsistent UI
  86. lovetox because the native window decorations are used for windows where nothing is in the titlebar, but when i put gtk widgets there, gtk does the rendering, and so you get inconsistent UI
  87. lovetox because the native window decorations are used for windows where nothing is in the titlebar, but when i put gtk widgets there, gtk does the rendering, and so you get inconsistent UI
  88. zuglufttier It only works really good if you use GNOME.
  89. zuglufttier It only works really good if you use GNOME.
  90. zuglufttier It only works really good if you use GNOME.
  91. SaltyBones I mean, doing user interfaces is hard enough
  92. SaltyBones I mean, doing user interfaces is hard enough
  93. SaltyBones I mean, doing user interfaces is hard enough
  94. SaltyBones doing them in a way that works well across different themes is even harder
  95. SaltyBones doing them in a way that works well across different themes is even harder
  96. SaltyBones doing them in a way that works well across different themes is even harder
  97. svesa set the topic to Welcome to the official room of Gajim. Gajim 0.16.8 is now released! Try it! Language is English. If you have something to ask, just ask. Don't circle around with questions like "Have anyone used Gajim on Windows?"... New bugs at https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues New bugs about a plugin at https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues Paste in https://paste.gajim.org shots in http://picpaste.com room logs in https://conference.gajim.org:5281/muc_log/gajim/ Spread Gajim! https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/wikis/community/SpreadJabberAndGajim GSOC: xmpp:gsoc@conference.conversations.im?join
  98. svesa set the topic to Welcome to the official room of Gajim. Gajim 0.16.8 is now released! Try it! Language is English. If you have something to ask, just ask. Don't circle around with questions like "Have anyone used Gajim on Windows?"... New bugs at https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues New bugs about a plugin at https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues Paste in https://paste.gajim.org shots in http://picpaste.com room logs in https://conference.gajim.org:5281/muc_log/gajim/ Spread Gajim! https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/wikis/community/SpreadJabberAndGajim GSOC: xmpp:gsoc@conference.conversations.im?join
  99. svesa set the topic to Welcome to the official room of Gajim. Gajim 0.16.8 is now released! Try it! Language is English. If you have something to ask, just ask. Don't circle around with questions like "Have anyone used Gajim on Windows?"... New bugs at https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/issues New bugs about a plugin at https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/issues Paste in https://paste.gajim.org shots in http://picpaste.com room logs in https://conference.gajim.org:5281/muc_log/gajim/ Spread Gajim! https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/wikis/community/SpreadJabberAndGajim GSOC: xmpp:gsoc@conference.conversations.im?join
  100. Marzanna I close a tab with a conference. It just disapopeared without any question. How do I reconnect to chat?
  101. Marzanna I close a tab with a conference. It just disapopeared without any question. How do I reconnect to chat?
  102. Marzanna I close a tab with a conference. It just disapopeared without any question. How do I reconnect to chat?
  103. Marzanna I closed a tab with a conference. It just disapopeared without any question. How do I reconnect to chat?
  104. Marzanna I closed a tab with a conference. It just disapopeared without any question. How do I reconnect to chat?
  105. Marzanna I closed a tab with a conference. It just disapopeared without any question. How do I reconnect to chat?
  106. Marzanna Oh, found it. It appeared in a roster 😮
  107. Marzanna Oh, found it. It appeared in a roster 😮
  108. Marzanna Oh, found it. It appeared in a roster 😮
  109. concerto o/
  110. concerto o/
  111. concerto o/
  112. concerto Any timeline on chat markers?
  113. concerto Any timeline on chat markers?
  114. concerto Any timeline on chat markers?
  115. therob Hey. Can anybody tell me, if it is possible to force gajim/omemo-plugin to re-request omemo keys for a certain contact? The fingerprints of this contact are empty, although i know she uses omemo and although I can send/receive omemo with this contact from my conversations-app (with same account). She uses gajim 16.8 Any ideas? It could be, that this happened after moving from gajim16.8 to master branch (portable, copied data folder) - but I am not sure about this.
  116. therob Hey. Can anybody tell me, if it is possible to force gajim/omemo-plugin to re-request omemo keys for a certain contact? The fingerprints of this contact are empty, although i know she uses omemo and although I can send/receive omemo with this contact from my conversations-app (with same account). She uses gajim 16.8 Any ideas? It could be, that this happened after moving from gajim16.8 to master branch (portable, copied data folder) - but I am not sure about this.
  117. therob Hey. Can anybody tell me, if it is possible to force gajim/omemo-plugin to re-request omemo keys for a certain contact? The fingerprints of this contact are empty, although i know she uses omemo and although I can send/receive omemo with this contact from my conversations-app (with same account). She uses gajim 16.8 Any ideas? It could be, that this happened after moving from gajim16.8 to master branch (portable, copied data folder) - but I am not sure about this.
  118. Asterix If you log off / on again, does that help ?
  119. Asterix If you log off / on again, does that help ?
  120. Asterix If you log off / on again, does that help ?
  121. therob Restart does not help
  122. therob Restart does not help
  123. therob Restart does not help
  124. therob Other contacts are fine. Only 2 not
  125. therob Other contacts are fine. Only 2 not
  126. therob Other contacts are fine. Only 2 not
  127. lovetox therob keys are requested after ever restart if you try to send a message
  128. lovetox therob keys are requested after ever restart if you try to send a message
  129. lovetox therob keys are requested after ever restart if you try to send a message
  130. lovetox this means we dont receive the device list for some reason
  131. lovetox this means we dont receive the device list for some reason
  132. lovetox this means we dont receive the device list for some reason
  133. lovetox you can start with -l gajim.plugin_system.omemo=DEBUG
  134. lovetox you can start with -l gajim.plugin_system.omemo=DEBUG
  135. lovetox you can start with -l gajim.plugin_system.omemo=DEBUG
  136. lovetox and see if you find the jid of the contact in the logs at the beginning with a device id
  137. lovetox and see if you find the jid of the contact in the logs at the beginning with a device id
  138. lovetox and see if you find the jid of the contact in the logs at the beginning with a device id
  139. therob Can I use this line in the portable starter-link?
  140. therob Can I use this line in the portable starter-link?
  141. therob Can I use this line in the portable starter-link?
  142. lovetox windows?
  143. lovetox windows?
  144. lovetox windows?
  145. lovetox yes
  146. lovetox yes
  147. lovetox yes
  148. therob Yep
  149. therob Yep
  150. therob Yep
  151. lovetox properties, then add it at the end
  152. lovetox properties, then add it at the end
  153. lovetox properties, then add it at the end
  154. lovetox right now the plugin depends on that the server sends us the device list
  155. lovetox right now the plugin depends on that the server sends us the device list
  156. lovetox right now the plugin depends on that the server sends us the device list
  157. lovetox but this seems not to happen in some cases, i will add a fallback where we actively request the device list
  158. lovetox but this seems not to happen in some cases, i will add a fallback where we actively request the device list
  159. lovetox but this seems not to happen in some cases, i will add a fallback where we actively request the device list
  160. therob Yep, my thought. OK, will try tmrw (and maybe contact you directly) Will there be a prompt or a logfile?
  161. therob Yep, my thought. OK, will try tmrw (and maybe contact you directly) Will there be a prompt or a logfile?
  162. therob Yep, my thought. OK, will try tmrw (and maybe contact you directly) Will there be a prompt or a logfile?
  163. lovetox you should have debug-starter link
  164. lovetox you should have debug-starter link
  165. lovetox you should have debug-starter link
  166. therob Yep
  167. therob Yep
  168. therob Yep
  169. lovetox if you start from that there is a prompt
  170. lovetox if you start from that there is a prompt
  171. lovetox if you start from that there is a prompt
  172. therob OK, will try tmrw. You ate omemo-plugin-dev?
  173. therob OK, will try tmrw. You ate omemo-plugin-dev?
  174. therob OK, will try tmrw. You ate omemo-plugin-dev?
  175. lovetox prompt? a command line window
  176. lovetox prompt? a command line window
  177. lovetox prompt? a command line window
  178. therob Ok
  179. therob Ok
  180. therob Ok
  181. therob ate=are
  182. therob ate=are
  183. therob ate=are
  184. lovetox yes
  185. lovetox yes
  186. lovetox yes
  187. therob OK. Then I contact you after trying.
  188. therob OK. Then I contact you after trying.
  189. therob OK. Then I contact you after trying.
  190. therob Thanks and cu later.
  191. therob Thanks and cu later.
  192. therob Thanks and cu later.
  193. lovetox tomorrow im on in the evening, bye
  194. lovetox tomorrow im on in the evening, bye
  195. lovetox tomorrow im on in the evening, bye
  196. therob OK, we will see. Thanks for now.
  197. therob OK, we will see. Thanks for now.
  198. therob OK, we will see. Thanks for now.