Gajim - 2017-10-30


  1. themute Hello! Could anyone please help me locate the usual place where history is kept in Debian Stretch? My system crashed, and I'm trying to save the files that I wasn't on time to backup with the LiveCD help, but can't seem to find the logs anywhere.
  2. themute Hello! Could anyone please help me locate the usual place where history is kept in Debian Stretch? My system crashed, and I'm trying to save the files that I wasn't on time to backup with the LiveCD help, but can't seem to find the logs anywhere.
  3. lovetox ~/.local/share/gajim
  4. lovetox ~/.local/share/gajim
  5. lovetox ~/.config/gajim
  6. lovetox ~/.config/gajim
  7. themute Oh my, thank you so much! I got them now. :) Somehow even searching the whole system only found one wrong folder.
  8. themute Oh my, thank you so much! I got them now. :) Somehow even searching the whole system only found one wrong folder.
  9. lsg lovetox, problem with the sound was reproduced?
  10. lsg lovetox, problem with the sound was reproduced?
  11. lsg Gajim, KDE.
  12. lsg Gajim, KDE.
  13. lovetox ah no sorry didnt have time, could you please add a issue so i dont forget
  14. lovetox ah no sorry didnt have time, could you please add a issue so i dont forget
  15. lsg lovetox, It seems in another GTK application, too, there is no sound. Perhaps this is a system problem.
  16. lsg lovetox, It seems in another GTK application, too, there is no sound. Perhaps this is a system problem.
  17. lsg lovetox, what backend does Gajim use?
  18. lsg lovetox, what backend does Gajim use?
  19. lovetox https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/ossaudiodev.html
  20. lovetox https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/ossaudiodev.html
  21. lovetox there is advanced config setting called "soundplayer"
  22. lovetox there is advanced config setting called "soundplayer"
  23. lovetox you can set a other programm there
  24. lovetox you can set a other programm there
  25. lovetox it will then execute : executable path_to_soundfile
  26. lovetox it will then execute : executable path_to_soundfile
  27. lsg paplay file.wav sounded.
  28. lsg paplay file.wav sounded.
  29. jfc +1 for OMEMO by default.
  30. jfc +1 for OMEMO by default.
  31. jfc +1 for OMEMO by default.
  32. SaltyBones except that omemo is pretty shitty :p
  33. SaltyBones except that omemo is pretty shitty :p
  34. SaltyBones except that omemo is pretty shitty :p
  35. hartmann SaltyBones: why so salty about omemo?
  36. hartmann SaltyBones: why so salty about omemo?
  37. hartmann SaltyBones: why so salty about omemo?
  38. SaltyBones because I've been using it for a while and the concept of separately managed keys for all installations is garbage. :)
  39. SaltyBones because I've been using it for a while and the concept of separately managed keys for all installations is garbage. :)
  40. SaltyBones because I've been using it for a while and the concept of separately managed keys for all installations is garbage. :)
  41. hartmann Security vs convenience I guess
  42. hartmann Security vs convenience I guess
  43. hartmann Security vs convenience I guess
  44. hartmann Also depending on your threat model omemo might not be what you need
  45. hartmann Also depending on your threat model omemo might not be what you need
  46. hartmann Also depending on your threat model omemo might not be what you need
  47. jfc Convenient for nontechnical people who sit on their phones. That is what makes Conversations a great app.
  48. jfc Convenient for nontechnical people who sit on their phones. That is what makes Conversations a great app.
  49. jfc Convenient for nontechnical people who sit on their phones. That is what makes Conversations a great app.
  50. SaltyBones jfc, for nontechnical people who sit on their phones and don't use it on their desktop
  51. SaltyBones jfc, for nontechnical people who sit on their phones and don't use it on their desktop
  52. SaltyBones jfc, for nontechnical people who sit on their phones and don't use it on their desktop
  53. jfc ^ my point exactly
  54. jfc ^ my point exactly
  55. jfc ^ my point exactly
  56. SaltyBones which I don't find very convenient at all, even my mom complained until I installed a client on her desktop
  57. SaltyBones which I don't find very convenient at all, even my mom complained until I installed a client on her desktop
  58. SaltyBones which I don't find very convenient at all, even my mom complained until I installed a client on her desktop
  59. jfc So what is better for you? Gpg?
  60. jfc So what is better for you? Gpg?
  61. jfc So what is better for you? Gpg?
  62. SaltyBones nothing
  63. SaltyBones nothing
  64. SaltyBones nothing
  65. SaltyBones everything is shit
  66. SaltyBones everything is shit
  67. SaltyBones everything is shit
  68. SaltyBones signal works pretty well
  69. SaltyBones signal works pretty well
  70. SaltyBones signal works pretty well
  71. jfc What technology is signal based off?
  72. jfc What technology is signal based off?
  73. jfc What technology is signal based off?
  74. SaltyBones none, it's homebrew
  75. SaltyBones none, it's homebrew
  76. SaltyBones none, it's homebrew
  77. SaltyBones but the crypto is the origin of omemo
  78. SaltyBones but the crypto is the origin of omemo
  79. SaltyBones but the crypto is the origin of omemo
  80. SaltyBones they manage extra keys transparently though
  81. SaltyBones they manage extra keys transparently though
  82. SaltyBones they manage extra keys transparently though
  83. SaltyBones if you want a new device you have to scan a qr code and trust is based on your phone
  84. SaltyBones if you want a new device you have to scan a qr code and trust is based on your phone
  85. SaltyBones if you want a new device you have to scan a qr code and trust is based on your phone
  86. jfc Interesting, is it libre?
  87. jfc Interesting, is it libre?
  88. jfc Interesting, is it libre?
  89. SaltyBones it s nothing of the sort
  90. SaltyBones it s nothing of the sort
  91. SaltyBones it s nothing of the sort
  92. SaltyBones the client is open source
  93. SaltyBones the client is open source
  94. SaltyBones the client is open source
  95. jfc It is open source but not libre?
  96. jfc It is open source but not libre?
  97. jfc It is open source but not libre?
  98. SaltyBones i dont even know what that means
  99. SaltyBones i dont even know what that means
  100. SaltyBones i dont even know what that means
  101. SaltyBones but you re not allowed to change it
  102. SaltyBones but you re not allowed to change it
  103. SaltyBones but you re not allowed to change it
  104. SaltyBones and the server is closed
  105. SaltyBones and the server is closed
  106. SaltyBones and the server is closed
  107. jfc Free as in freedom.
  108. jfc Free as in freedom.
  109. jfc Free as in freedom.
  110. SaltyBones yeah that doesnt tell me anything either ;)
  111. SaltyBones yeah that doesnt tell me anything either ;)
  112. SaltyBones yeah that doesnt tell me anything either ;)
  113. jfc OK
  114. jfc OK
  115. jfc OK
  116. jfc How does it compare to wire?
  117. jfc How does it compare to wire?
  118. jfc How does it compare to wire?
  119. SaltyBones what's wire?
  120. SaltyBones what's wire?
  121. SaltyBones what's wire?
  122. jfc Another messaging client.
  123. jfc Another messaging client.
  124. jfc Another messaging client.
  125. jfc It is libre AFAIK.
  126. jfc It is libre AFAIK.
  127. jfc It is libre AFAIK.
  128. jfc ;)
  129. jfc ;)
  130. jfc ;)
  131. SaltyBones great, so...french?
  132. SaltyBones great, so...french?
  133. SaltyBones great, so...french?
  134. jfc :P
  135. jfc :P
  136. jfc :P
  137. hartmann With TLS and a trustworthy server admin you don't really need e2ee most of the time but it doesn't hurt to use it
  138. hartmann With TLS and a trustworthy server admin you don't really need e2ee most of the time but it doesn't hurt to use it
  139. hartmann With TLS and a trustworthy server admin you don't really need e2ee most of the time but it doesn't hurt to use it
  140. SaltyBones hartmann, but a trustworthy server admin neither scales nor is it very robust. :)
  141. SaltyBones hartmann, but a trustworthy server admin neither scales nor is it very robust. :)
  142. SaltyBones hartmann, but a trustworthy server admin neither scales nor is it very robust. :)
  143. SaltyBones jfc, not sure what this libre is, looking at their website it very much looks like a business solution.
  144. SaltyBones jfc, not sure what this libre is, looking at their website it very much looks like a business solution.
  145. SaltyBones jfc, not sure what this libre is, looking at their website it very much looks like a business solution.
  146. jfc It doesn't hurt to use and is convenient enough to do so. May as well use it I think.
  147. jfc It doesn't hurt to use and is convenient enough to do so. May as well use it I think.
  148. jfc It doesn't hurt to use and is convenient enough to do so. May as well use it I think.
  149. SaltyBones Use what? What?
  150. SaltyBones Use what? What?
  151. SaltyBones Use what? What?
  152. jfc End to end encryption.
  153. jfc End to end encryption.
  154. jfc End to end encryption.
  155. SaltyBones End-to-end is definitely great. I run my own server and still want it. :p
  156. SaltyBones End-to-end is definitely great. I run my own server and still want it. :p
  157. SaltyBones End-to-end is definitely great. I run my own server and still want it. :p
  158. hartmann > hartmann, but a trustworthy server admin neither scales nor is it very robust. :) SaltyBones: if it is paid appropriately it scales very well 😜
  159. hartmann > hartmann, but a trustworthy server admin neither scales nor is it very robust. :) SaltyBones: if it is paid appropriately it scales very well 😜
  160. hartmann > hartmann, but a trustworthy server admin neither scales nor is it very robust. :) SaltyBones: if it is paid appropriately it scales very well 😜
  161. SaltyBones hartmann, what I mean is, there are not enough trustworthy admins to go around so that everybody can have one
  162. SaltyBones hartmann, what I mean is, there are not enough trustworthy admins to go around so that everybody can have one
  163. SaltyBones hartmann, what I mean is, there are not enough trustworthy admins to go around so that everybody can have one
  164. SaltyBones it means we need like 10 % of the population to be jabber admins ;)
  165. SaltyBones it means we need like 10 % of the population to be jabber admins ;)
  166. SaltyBones it means we need like 10 % of the population to be jabber admins ;)
  167. mimi89999 A lot...
  168. mimi89999 A lot...
  169. mimi89999 A lot...
  170. mdosch Did you remove the history icon by purpose in current nightly builds?
  171. mdosch Did you remove the history icon by purpose in current nightly builds?
  172. mdosch Did you remove the history icon by purpose in current nightly builds?
  173. mdosch I just wanted to read in the history and realized there is no more button for quick access in the chat window
  174. mdosch I just wanted to read in the history and realized there is no more button for quick access in the chat window
  175. mdosch I just wanted to read in the history and realized there is no more button for quick access in the chat window
  176. mimi89999 mdosch: Yes
  177. mimi89999 mdosch: Yes
  178. mimi89999 mdosch: Yes
  179. mdosch What's the reason?
  180. mdosch What's the reason?
  181. mdosch What's the reason?
  182. mimi89999 mdosch: Make Gajim look nicer
  183. mimi89999 mdosch: Make Gajim look nicer
  184. mimi89999 mdosch: Make Gajim look nicer
  185. SaltyBones x)
  186. SaltyBones x)
  187. SaltyBones x)
  188. mdosch Ah ok, it is in the sandwich menu now
  189. mdosch Ah ok, it is in the sandwich menu now
  190. mdosch Ah ok, it is in the sandwich menu now
  191. Asterix I looked for it a few seconds too the first time
  192. Asterix I looked for it a few seconds too the first time
  193. Asterix I looked for it a few seconds too the first time
  194. lovetox no button is lost, they all just moved into the menu
  195. lovetox no button is lost, they all just moved into the menu
  196. lovetox no button is lost, they all just moved into the menu
  197. ThibG I have a very important question: why is “:3” rendered as 🦁 and not as 🐱 ?
  198. ThibG I have a very important question: why is “:3” rendered as 🦁 and not as 🐱 ?
  199. ThibG I have a very important question: why is “:3” rendered as 🦁 and not as 🐱 ?
  200. ThibG hm, gajim is now eating 100% CPU
  201. ThibG hm, gajim is now eating 100% CPU
  202. ThibG hm, gajim is now eating 100% CPU
  203. ThibG I think it was caused by updating network-manager while it was running, but I'm not sure
  204. ThibG I think it was caused by updating network-manager while it was running, but I'm not sure
  205. ThibG I think it was caused by updating network-manager while it was running, but I'm not sure
  206. lovetox its not like invested much time into matching string emotes to unicode emotes :D
  207. lovetox its not like invested much time into matching string emotes to unicode emotes :D
  208. lovetox its not like invested much time into matching string emotes to unicode emotes :D
  209. hartmann > mdosch: Make Gajim look nicer Make Gajim great again!
  210. hartmann > mdosch: Make Gajim look nicer Make Gajim great again!
  211. hartmann > mdosch: Make Gajim look nicer Make Gajim great again!
  212. yvo hartmann: gajim IS great!
  213. yvo hartmann: gajim IS great!
  214. yvo hartmann: gajim IS great!
  215. hartmann yvo: you don't have to tell me. But I can see where newcomers might get frustrated
  216. hartmann yvo: you don't have to tell me. But I can see where newcomers might get frustrated
  217. hartmann yvo: you don't have to tell me. But I can see where newcomers might get frustrated
  218. yvo Yeay of course :)
  219. yvo Yeay of course :)
  220. yvo Yeay of course :)
  221. yvo hartmann:
  222. yvo hartmann:
  223. yvo hartmann:
  224. hartmann And getting omemo to work initially after installation on Linux is a pain in the you know what I mean
  225. hartmann And getting omemo to work initially after installation on Linux is a pain in the you know what I mean
  226. hartmann And getting omemo to work initially after installation on Linux is a pain in the you know what I mean
  227. debacle hartmann: What exactly is the problem in getting OMEMO to work on Linux? Is it the acceptance of the device keys in Gajim?
  228. debacle hartmann: What exactly is the problem in getting OMEMO to work on Linux? Is it the acceptance of the device keys in Gajim?
  229. debacle hartmann: What exactly is the problem in getting OMEMO to work on Linux? Is it the acceptance of the device keys in Gajim?
  230. yvo hartmann: yes, what is difficult?
  231. yvo hartmann: yes, what is difficult?
  232. yvo hartmann: yes, what is difficult?
  233. hartmann debacle: the dependency situation has improved quite a lot. It was way worse. But still I have to accept all keys manually before starting to type. When a new key appears, it asks me but the initial accept-all-the-keys including my own keys is a bit annoying
  234. hartmann debacle: the dependency situation has improved quite a lot. It was way worse. But still I have to accept all keys manually before starting to type. When a new key appears, it asks me but the initial accept-all-the-keys including my own keys is a bit annoying
  235. hartmann debacle: the dependency situation has improved quite a lot. It was way worse. But still I have to accept all keys manually before starting to type. When a new key appears, it asks me but the initial accept-all-the-keys including my own keys is a bit annoying
  236. yvo Ah this you mean
  237. yvo Ah this you mean
  238. yvo Ah this you mean
  239. yvo My problem is that the omemo button is missing.
  240. yvo My problem is that the omemo button is missing.
  241. yvo My problem is that the omemo button is missing.
  242. yvo I have to start omemo on another device to trigger omemo manually.
  243. yvo I have to start omemo on another device to trigger omemo manually.
  244. yvo I have to start omemo on another device to trigger omemo manually.
  245. debacle hartmann, I understand. This is mainly a Gajim UI and UX problem.
  246. debacle hartmann, I understand. This is mainly a Gajim UI and UX problem.
  247. debacle hartmann, I understand. This is mainly a Gajim UI and UX problem.
  248. debacle yvo, this is really strange! never happened to me - and I have some problems with Gajim :~)
  249. debacle yvo, this is really strange! never happened to me - and I have some problems with Gajim :~)
  250. debacle yvo, this is really strange! never happened to me - and I have some problems with Gajim :~)
  251. yvo I find it also funny
  252. yvo I find it also funny
  253. yvo I find it also funny
  254. yvo ;-P
  255. yvo ;-P
  256. yvo ;-P
  257. yvo Was bedeutet UX, debacle?
  258. yvo Was bedeutet UX, debacle?
  259. yvo Was bedeutet UX, debacle?
  260. Holger "User eXperience"
  261. Holger "User eXperience"
  262. Holger "User eXperience"
  263. debacle yvo, if you happen to run Debian, you could try gajim and gajim-omemo from experimental
  264. debacle yvo, if you happen to run Debian, you could try gajim and gajim-omemo from experimental
  265. debacle yvo, if you happen to run Debian, you could try gajim and gajim-omemo from experimental
  266. debacle Holger, yvo, yes, one of the important things in every bullshit bingo!
  267. debacle Holger, yvo, yes, one of the important things in every bullshit bingo!
  268. debacle Holger, yvo, yes, one of the important things in every bullshit bingo!
  269. lovetox yvo missing omemo button means your contact does not announce omemo
  270. lovetox yvo missing omemo button means your contact does not announce omemo
  271. lovetox yvo missing omemo button means your contact does not announce omemo
  272. debacle lovetox, via PEP?
  273. debacle lovetox, via PEP?
  274. debacle lovetox, via PEP?
  275. Holger I'm well trained at bullshit bingo by my workplace these days. You'll loose!
  276. Holger I'm well trained at bullshit bingo by my workplace these days. You'll loose!
  277. Holger I'm well trained at bullshit bingo by my workplace these days. You'll loose!
  278. debacle Holger, I used to be very good at it ten years ago, but after changing from a large US company to an SME, I have no chance anymore :~(
  279. debacle Holger, I used to be very good at it ten years ago, but after changing from a large US company to an SME, I have no chance anymore :~(
  280. debacle Holger, I used to be very good at it ten years ago, but after changing from a large US company to an SME, I have no chance anymore :~(
  281. lovetox yes debacle
  282. lovetox yes debacle
  283. lovetox yes debacle
  284. yvo lovetox: hm but i want to be able to use omemo without announcement.
  285. yvo lovetox: hm but i want to be able to use omemo without announcement.
  286. yvo lovetox: hm but i want to be able to use omemo without announcement.
  287. yvo debacle: ok ill try experimental. At the moment i have sid.
  288. yvo debacle: ok ill try experimental. At the moment i have sid.
  289. yvo debacle: ok ill try experimental. At the moment i have sid.
  290. tschaeggaer hey there. :)
  291. tschaeggaer hey there. :)
  292. tschaeggaer hey there. :)
  293. tschaeggaer I started using Gajim (0.16.8) on Windows with OMEMO plugin yesterday and now I have a question: I thought OMEMO ("multi-end") is for having multiple clients in sync while chatting with people. When my Gajim is offline and I get a message from a single person via Conversations (1.21.0) on Android with OMEMO the messages don't get snyced when I go online with Gajim later. I'm using trashserver.net which has MAM enabled and working. All clients know and trust each other's OMEMO keys. Am I the problem here? Is there something else I don't know?
  294. tschaeggaer I started using Gajim (0.16.8) on Windows with OMEMO plugin yesterday and now I have a question: I thought OMEMO ("multi-end") is for having multiple clients in sync while chatting with people. When my Gajim is offline and I get a message from a single person via Conversations (1.21.0) on Android with OMEMO the messages don't get snyced when I go online with Gajim later. I'm using trashserver.net which has MAM enabled and working. All clients know and trust each other's OMEMO keys. Am I the problem here? Is there something else I don't know?
  295. tschaeggaer I started using Gajim (0.16.8) on Windows with OMEMO plugin yesterday and now I have a question: I thought OMEMO ("multi-end") is for having multiple clients in sync while chatting with people. When my Gajim is offline and I get a message from a single person via Conversations (1.21.0) on Android with OMEMO the messages don't get snyced when I go online with Gajim later. I'm using trashserver.net which has MAM enabled and working. All clients know and trust each other's OMEMO keys. Am I the problem here? Is there something else I don't know?
  296. lovetox tschaeggaer, problem seems to be that trashserver.net supports a very new version of MAM, thats not supported by 0.16.8, but we can solve this
  297. lovetox tschaeggaer, problem seems to be that trashserver.net supports a very new version of MAM, thats not supported by 0.16.8, but we can solve this
  298. lovetox tschaeggaer, problem seems to be that trashserver.net supports a very new version of MAM, thats not supported by 0.16.8, but we can solve this
  299. lovetox there is a new version of gajim that supports that and also has other improvements
  300. lovetox there is a new version of gajim that supports that and also has other improvements
  301. lovetox there is a new version of gajim that supports that and also has other improvements
  302. lovetox https://gajim.org/downloads/snap/win/Gajim-Master-2017-10-30.exe
  303. lovetox https://gajim.org/downloads/snap/win/Gajim-Master-2017-10-30.exe
  304. lovetox https://gajim.org/downloads/snap/win/Gajim-Master-2017-10-30.exe
  305. lovetox after install you have to download omemo again in the plugins menu, but everything should work after that
  306. lovetox after install you have to download omemo again in the plugins menu, but everything should work after that
  307. lovetox after install you have to download omemo again in the plugins menu, but everything should work after that
  308. tschaeggaer ok thank you. I will try that and report back in a few.
  309. tschaeggaer ok thank you. I will try that and report back in a few.
  310. tschaeggaer ok thank you. I will try that and report back in a few.
  311. Tschaeggaer I tried to download and install it (both twice) and got lots of error messages and couldn't even go online. Here's the errors: https://framabin.org/?fa1233d4854a1160#6BVi8dE2B7bcn1SROcV4Iy0UZb7wMgO9zO2kfZEcuGg=
  312. Tschaeggaer I tried to download and install it (both twice) and got lots of error messages and couldn't even go online. Here's the errors: https://framabin.org/?fa1233d4854a1160#6BVi8dE2B7bcn1SROcV4Iy0UZb7wMgO9zO2kfZEcuGg=
  313. Tschaeggaer I tried to download and install it (both twice) and got lots of error messages and couldn't even go online. Here's the errors: https://framabin.org/?fa1233d4854a1160#6BVi8dE2B7bcn1SROcV4Iy0UZb7wMgO9zO2kfZEcuGg=
  314. Tschaeggaer installation went well, the errors popped during the start of gajim
  315. Tschaeggaer installation went well, the errors popped during the start of gajim
  316. Tschaeggaer installation went well, the errors popped during the start of gajim
  317. lovetox are you using any special kind of connection to your server?
  318. lovetox are you using any special kind of connection to your server?
  319. lovetox are you using any special kind of connection to your server?
  320. lovetox like bosh?
  321. lovetox like bosh?
  322. lovetox like bosh?
  323. Tschaeggaer yes i am
  324. Tschaeggaer yes i am
  325. Tschaeggaer yes i am
  326. Tschaeggaer should i try disabling it?
  327. Tschaeggaer should i try disabling it?
  328. Tschaeggaer should i try disabling it?
  329. lovetox if thats possible please
  330. lovetox if thats possible please
  331. lovetox if thats possible please
  332. lovetox it seems we have a problem with bosh in the new version
  333. lovetox it seems we have a problem with bosh in the new version
  334. lovetox it seems we have a problem with bosh in the new version
  335. Tschaeggaer i mean, it wouldn't be a problem. if that could help-
  336. Tschaeggaer i mean, it wouldn't be a problem. if that could help-
  337. Tschaeggaer i mean, it wouldn't be a problem. if that could help-
  338. Tschaeggaer ok. brb :)
  339. Tschaeggaer ok. brb :)
  340. Tschaeggaer ok. brb :)
  341. Tschaeggaer btw i hold the cell phone of the person who is trying to send me in my hands atm.
  342. Tschaeggaer btw i hold the cell phone of the person who is trying to send me in my hands atm.
  343. Tschaeggaer btw i hold the cell phone of the person who is trying to send me in my hands atm.
  344. Tschaeggaer it tried to send the messages again to my PC now, but "delivery failed"
  345. Tschaeggaer it tried to send the messages again to my PC now, but "delivery failed"
  346. Tschaeggaer it tried to send the messages again to my PC now, but "delivery failed"
  347. Tschaeggaer "recipient unavailable"
  348. Tschaeggaer "recipient unavailable"
  349. Tschaeggaer "recipient unavailable"
  350. Tschaeggaer when i manually resend it works.
  351. Tschaeggaer when i manually resend it works.
  352. Tschaeggaer when i manually resend it works.
  353. lovetox so no problems without bosh now?
  354. lovetox so no problems without bosh now?
  355. lovetox so no problems without bosh now?
  356. lovetox dlivery failed, i dont know this error, you get this on gajim?
  357. lovetox dlivery failed, i dont know this error, you get this on gajim?
  358. lovetox dlivery failed, i dont know this error, you get this on gajim?
  359. lovetox or on your phone
  360. lovetox or on your phone
  361. lovetox or on your phone
  362. Tschaeggaer sorry, i forgot about that. no bosh-related problems. login works. conversations on android reported these errors.
  363. Tschaeggaer sorry, i forgot about that. no bosh-related problems. login works. conversations on android reported these errors.
  364. Tschaeggaer sorry, i forgot about that. no bosh-related problems. login works. conversations on android reported these errors.
  365. Tschaeggaer not my own phone but the phone of the person who is sending me messages.
  366. Tschaeggaer not my own phone but the phone of the person who is sending me messages.
  367. Tschaeggaer not my own phone but the phone of the person who is sending me messages.
  368. lovetox weird, i would ignore it maybe a connection problem, i dont think it has anything to do with gajim
  369. lovetox weird, i would ignore it maybe a connection problem, i dont think it has anything to do with gajim
  370. lovetox weird, i would ignore it maybe a connection problem, i dont think it has anything to do with gajim
  371. Tschaeggaer my chat partner so to speak
  372. Tschaeggaer my chat partner so to speak
  373. Tschaeggaer my chat partner so to speak
  374. lovetox and you are both on trashserver?
  375. lovetox and you are both on trashserver?
  376. lovetox and you are both on trashserver?
  377. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim>: *7ee06365* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/7ee0636574f346215ea0c9f344366419fe0f0cf1> Pass iter to print_special_text extension point
  378. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim>: *7ee06365* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/7ee0636574f346215ea0c9f344366419fe0f0cf1> Pass iter to print_special_text extension point
  379. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim>: *7ee06365* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/7ee0636574f346215ea0c9f344366419fe0f0cf1> Pass iter to print_special_text extension point
  380. Tschaeggaer yeah it's weird indeed. chat partner's phone sending to my phone is working. then i go online with gajim and i see on chat partner's phone that it's trying to resend to my PC. but it says that it fails (in conversations).
  381. Tschaeggaer yeah it's weird indeed. chat partner's phone sending to my phone is working. then i go online with gajim and i see on chat partner's phone that it's trying to resend to my PC. but it says that it fails (in conversations).
  382. Tschaeggaer yeah it's weird indeed. chat partner's phone sending to my phone is working. then i go online with gajim and i see on chat partner's phone that it's trying to resend to my PC. but it says that it fails (in conversations).
  383. Tschaeggaer yep, both on trashserver.net
  384. Tschaeggaer yep, both on trashserver.net
  385. Tschaeggaer yep, both on trashserver.net
  386. lovetox thats not how it works
  387. lovetox thats not how it works
  388. lovetox thats not how it works
  389. lovetox you only talk with the server
  390. lovetox you only talk with the server
  391. lovetox you only talk with the server
  392. lovetox not with other devices
  393. lovetox not with other devices
  394. lovetox not with other devices
  395. Tschaeggaer hmm
  396. Tschaeggaer hmm
  397. Tschaeggaer hmm
  398. lovetox so a message is sent to a server, and the server does deliver it
  399. lovetox so a message is sent to a server, and the server does deliver it
  400. lovetox so a message is sent to a server, and the server does deliver it
  401. Tschaeggaer ok. but i clearly see the phone trying to send again when i go online.
  402. Tschaeggaer ok. but i clearly see the phone trying to send again when i go online.
  403. Tschaeggaer ok. but i clearly see the phone trying to send again when i go online.
  404. lovetox so the phone trying to resend a old message, indicates to me that there is maybe a unstable connection and that the phone thinks the message was not send
  405. lovetox so the phone trying to resend a old message, indicates to me that there is maybe a unstable connection and that the phone thinks the message was not send
  406. lovetox so the phone trying to resend a old message, indicates to me that there is maybe a unstable connection and that the phone thinks the message was not send
  407. lovetox puh you have to ask on the conversations channel whats that about, makes no sense to me
  408. lovetox puh you have to ask on the conversations channel whats that about, makes no sense to me
  409. lovetox puh you have to ask on the conversations channel whats that about, makes no sense to me
  410. lovetox you dont use any encryption?
  411. lovetox you dont use any encryption?
  412. lovetox you dont use any encryption?
  413. Tschaeggaer WLAN signal is full and it's pretty stable.
  414. Tschaeggaer WLAN signal is full and it's pretty stable.
  415. Tschaeggaer WLAN signal is full and it's pretty stable.
  416. Tschaeggaer we are using OMEMO
  417. Tschaeggaer we are using OMEMO
  418. Tschaeggaer we are using OMEMO
  419. Tschaeggaer i can try without omemo if you want
  420. Tschaeggaer i can try without omemo if you want
  421. Tschaeggaer i can try without omemo if you want
  422. lovetox try both disabling it, and see if the problem persists, just to rule it out
  423. lovetox try both disabling it, and see if the problem persists, just to rule it out
  424. lovetox try both disabling it, and see if the problem persists, just to rule it out
  425. Tschaeggaer it's the same with or without OMEMO
  426. Tschaeggaer it's the same with or without OMEMO
  427. Tschaeggaer it's the same with or without OMEMO
  428. lovetox hm ask in conversations channel, seems like a conversations problem
  429. lovetox hm ask in conversations channel, seems like a conversations problem
  430. lovetox hm ask in conversations channel, seems like a conversations problem
  431. lovetox i have no idea why it would try to resend a message that is already sent
  432. lovetox i have no idea why it would try to resend a message that is already sent
  433. lovetox i have no idea why it would try to resend a message that is already sent
  434. lovetox am i right that there are no prbolem in the direction Gajim -> to anyone
  435. lovetox am i right that there are no prbolem in the direction Gajim -> to anyone
  436. lovetox am i right that there are no prbolem in the direction Gajim -> to anyone
  437. Tschaeggaer but there's another weird thing. what i described only happens when my own phone is inactive. i.e.: when my phone is locked my chat partner sends a message, my phone vibrates. when my gajim on PC goes online the chat partner's phone tries to resend and fails but it can manually resend and gajim gets the message.
  438. Tschaeggaer but there's another weird thing. what i described only happens when my own phone is inactive. i.e.: when my phone is locked my chat partner sends a message, my phone vibrates. when my gajim on PC goes online the chat partner's phone tries to resend and fails but it can manually resend and gajim gets the message.
  439. Tschaeggaer but there's another weird thing. what i described only happens when my own phone is inactive. i.e.: when my phone is locked my chat partner sends a message, my phone vibrates. when my gajim on PC goes online the chat partner's phone tries to resend and fails but it can manually resend and gajim gets the message.
  440. Tschaeggaer when i have conversations open on my phone, and my chat partner sends a text. and i go online with gajim nothing happens. gajim can't get the message.
  441. Tschaeggaer when i have conversations open on my phone, and my chat partner sends a text. and i go online with gajim nothing happens. gajim can't get the message.
  442. Tschaeggaer when i have conversations open on my phone, and my chat partner sends a text. and i go online with gajim nothing happens. gajim can't get the message.
  443. Tschaeggaer that's right. i see no problems there.
  444. Tschaeggaer that's right. i see no problems there.
  445. Tschaeggaer that's right. i see no problems there.
  446. lovetox no idea sorry, never heard of a behavior like that
  447. lovetox no idea sorry, never heard of a behavior like that
  448. lovetox no idea sorry, never heard of a behavior like that
  449. Tschaeggaer if i think about it now, it really sounds more likely that is has something to do with conversations or the server.
  450. Tschaeggaer if i think about it now, it really sounds more likely that is has something to do with conversations or the server.
  451. Tschaeggaer if i think about it now, it really sounds more likely that is has something to do with conversations or the server.
  452. Tschaeggaer thank you very much for your time. i really appreciate it. :)
  453. Tschaeggaer thank you very much for your time. i really appreciate it. :)
  454. Tschaeggaer thank you very much for your time. i really appreciate it. :)
  455. lovetox have a good night :)
  456. lovetox have a good night :)
  457. lovetox have a good night :)
  458. Tschaeggaer you too! and i will ask about it in the conversations-MUC
  459. Tschaeggaer you too! and i will ask about it in the conversations-MUC
  460. Tschaeggaer you too! and i will ask about it in the conversations-MUC
  461. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim>: *174a429d* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/174a429d203b00c10664837f9f0bfe3286474cbe> Add Separator in ChatControl *7ab6ed7e* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/7ab6ed7e1657f39ea74974f9a1b214ba8f562150> Disable overlay scrolling
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  463. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 2 commits to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim>: *174a429d* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/174a429d203b00c10664837f9f0bfe3286474cbe> Add Separator in ChatControl *7ab6ed7e* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/7ab6ed7e1657f39ea74974f9a1b214ba8f562150> Disable overlay scrolling
  464. SaltyBones holy shit
  465. SaltyBones holy shit
  466. SaltyBones holy shit
  467. SaltyBones just tried to install whatsapp or signal on my mums tablet
  468. SaltyBones just tried to install whatsapp or signal on my mums tablet
  469. SaltyBones just tried to install whatsapp or signal on my mums tablet
  470. SaltyBones you simply cant
  471. SaltyBones you simply cant
  472. SaltyBones you simply cant
  473. SaltyBones *barf*
  474. SaltyBones *barf*
  475. SaltyBones *barf*
  476. lovetox i think the reason is because people then would say, why cant my 2 devices not share the same history and be synced :D
  477. lovetox i think the reason is because people then would say, why cant my 2 devices not share the same history and be synced :D
  478. lovetox i think the reason is because people then would say, why cant my 2 devices not share the same history and be synced :D
  479. lovetox and the answer would be, because we used your unique phone number as account, instead of just your email :)
  480. lovetox and the answer would be, because we used your unique phone number as account, instead of just your email :)
  481. lovetox and the answer would be, because we used your unique phone number as account, instead of just your email :)
  482. bot Philipp Hörist pushed 1 commit to branch _refs/heads/master_ of _gajim_ <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim>: *0b21c12c* <https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/commit/0b21c12c416aa79b64a9654fc90ca7150087f545> Make Scrollbar look more unobtrusive