lovetoxim not implementing that one ever, just look at the size whatever it is lol
Link MauveGajim isn’t an IoT device, why would you implement it?
lovetoxi didnt read it :D
lovetoxanother question
lovetoxgajim right now loses all entity caps of a contact
lovetoxonce it goes offline
lovetoxloses is the wrong word
lovetoxit ignores it
lovetoxi find this a bit weird
lovetoxi think the argument would be, because there are multiple resources, and each of them supports different things
lovetoxlets do nothing
Link Mauvelovetox, err, if someone is offline, there is no resource.
Link MauveIf someone has two resources, you can use either the union or the intersection of the features, depending on how conservative you want to be.
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cucis there a way to move the contact list to the right in single window mode?
arunecuc: we have tabs on left so I think right also should work
lovetoxarune, he was talking about contact list though
lovetoxcuc i dont know, but you can look at the afdvanced config editor
lovetoxmaybe there is a setting there
cuci did already... found nothing
zakHi there. Just updated the OMEMO plugin to 0.9.5. Is it correct that the OMEMO button is now gone?
zakDoesn't seem so :(
zakAh, had to activate the plugin again after the update.
zakThis is a little bit annoying.
cucyep had the same "issue" ;)
lovetoxreally? hmm .. yeah i never really update the plugin because im always on the latest version
lovetoxbut i look maybe i can do something about that
lovetoximportant thing is that is works ^^
lovetoxim always thankful if after an update not everything breaks :D
zakI think this is not OMEMO specific is it? Meaning that the plugin gets disabled after upgrade.
lovetoxhmmm good question :D
zakWhatever it is, it should be fixed ;)
NKhi, anybody help me?
don't work an actions with bookmarks j-confereces, try on 0.15.4, 0.16.6 and hg
Action... example: delete one of bookmark, delete and restart gajim - bookmark stayed,exist
lovetoxwhats your server?
lovetoxNK
lovetoxopen the xml console for your account
lovetoxdelete a bookmark
lovetoxand post what xml stream is happening to paste.gajim.org
NKlovetox: jabber.ru
NKok, try it
Link MauveNK, lovetox, someone else on jabber.ru reported the same bug, it was using PEP to download the bookmarks and Private XML for everything else.
NKlovetox: http://pastebin.com/Z6SPXU0h
NKin psi, psi+, vacuum - allright
NKin log don't see error and deleted my bookmark, but if restart gajim - bookmark founded
lovetoxNK, right now Gajim doesnt handle Bookmarks correctly
lovetoxmost server dont care and do it anyway
lovetoxbut jabber.ru ignores it
lovetoxcan you edit your bookmarks from another client?
lovetoxafterwards gajim should get the right bookmarks
lovetoxor are you using only gajim
lovetox?
NKlovetox: try it, delete in psi+ and vacuum, start gajim - bookmark too
lovetoxyou mean nothing changes if you edit them from another client?
NKyes
NKsorry for bad english
lovetoxhm i have a patch for that in another branch
lovetoxi will add the patch to the 0.16.6 branch
lovetoxi hope today, afterwards you can try again
lovetoxwith the version from hg
NKlovetox: branch default or gajim_0.16 ?
lovetoxgajim_0.16
lovetoxdefault should work
lovetoxbut its alpha status
lovetoxso other bugs in there
lovetoxjust wait i add this patch to gajim_0.16
NKok, wait
NKthis is how - bookmark saves on other server special for gajim
NKand, i don't know why, but maybe this error from upgrades on jabber.ru-server, yet 0.16.5
lovetoxyeah i dont know why this just happens now, we never had reports of it not working
lovetoxalso its weird that if you change a bookmark in another client
lovetoxit doesnt translates to gajim
NKyes, that's exactly what's happening(
NKand very interesting... why?
Link MauveBecause those other clients are using Private XML, and Gajim fetches them from PEP.
Link MauveI already said that earlier.
Link MauveEveryone should move to PEP already…
lovetoxbut why is it in pep?
Link Mauvelovetox, because?
Link MauveIt’s how the XEP is designed.
lovetoxyou said yourself these client dont use pep
Link MauveOnly an older version was recommending Private XML.
lovetoxso someone has to store it there
Link Mauvelovetox, those clients have not been updated.
Link Mauvelovetox, ah, dunno, maybe yet another client is only using PEP?
lovetoxbut the last reported couldnt also name the client who did this
Link MauveOr maybe jabber.ru changed something that made Gajim bail out of its PEP codepad.
Link MauveOr maybe jabber.ru changed something that made Gajim bail out of its PEP codepath.
lovetoxi slowly suspect jabber ru , stores it itself there
Link MauveUnlikely.
Link Mauvelovetox, most likely it was Gajim.
lovetoxthats unlikely, because jabber.ru doesnt fullfill the requirements
lovetoxwe talked about this last time
Link MauveMaybe it used to, before an update.
lovetoxhm that could be indeed
lovetoxso gajim stores it there, afterwards we only pull from there but cant store there again
lovetoxso nothing changes ever
lovetoxok but the patch will solve this good
lovetoxthe problem was that gajim accepts pep over xml, without testing server features
lovetoxbut for storing it tests
lovetoxso it pulls form pep, but can not store there
Link Mauvelovetox, have you sent an email to 0223’s author to clarify that issue?
lovetoxno i did not, because i cant articulate what the alternative would be
lovetoxi have no knowledge how pep works
lovetoxif this makes sense, or another thing would make more sense
Link MauveIt’s just PubSub on a JID.
lovetoxno i meant because of security
lovetoxi dont know how these things are configured etc
Link MauveJust report the issue to standards@ then.
lovetoxwhat issue? i have only a question, is this the correct behaviour or not
lovetoxand then they ask me, why should it not?
lovetoxand what would be my response to this?
lovetoxi dont know, i just ask questions for fun
lovetox:D
lovetoxi think we had only a issue, because we believed there was a client who ignores the xep
lovetoxbut we didnt found one yet
lovetoxindeed your theory is much better
lovetoxthat the server supported all features before an update
lovetoxso gajim stores there correctly
lovetoxbut did not afterwards, and gajim doesnt check features when pulling
lovetoxbut anway how do i report to @standards?
Link MauveJust register and send an email.
Link MauveLike any mailing list.
Link Mauvehttps://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards
lovetoxok so i registered, and now i just write an normal email to standards@xmpp.org?
lovetoxsorry for asking dumb stuff, but never used a mailing list :D
Link MauveYes.
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Traceback (most recent call last):
File "src\roster_window.py", line 3217, in on_assign_pgp_key
File "src\common\connection.py", line 697, in ask_gpg_keys
File "src\common\gpg.py", line 117, in get_keys
File "src\common\gnupg.py", line 1197, in list_keys
File "src\common\gnupg.py", line 1163, in _get_list_output
File "src\[…]
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lovetoxjust try it, you cant lose anything here, other then you have to clone again
NKIt's works!
NKlovetox, Link Mauve thx thx thanks
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When sending an OpenPGP encrypted message to one of my contacts the window "OpenPGP key not trusted" appears. For other contacts everything is fine. I use Gpg4win and this key looks like all others. I set the trust to "full trust". The[…]
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lovetoxgreat i will merge this patch with hg
lovetoxtell your friends on jabber.ru if they have the same problem :)
NKwait, one moment, final test
NK=)
Nkgood
Nkand cool)
lovetoxnice :)
lovetoxi really should get into this pgp stuff, it seems many people use gajim with pgp
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nk_but question: where are saved me oldest bookmarks?)
before delete in gajim w/ bookmark.patch
lovetoxwhat do you mean?
lovetoxafter the patch you had no bookmars at start?
nk_Now, i install gajim 0.16.6 - problems and old bookmarks stay
lovetoxof course.. 0.16.6 is not hg
lovetox..
lovetoxyou have to wait for 0.16.7
lovetoxbookmarks are saved in a feature called PEP
nk_no-no, insteresting where saved this is info about my old_bookmarks?)
nk_hmm
lovetoxthe problem is
lovetoxto write new or edit bookmarks to PEP
lovetoxthe server requires some features
lovetoxwhich jabber.ru it seems now after the server update does not anymore
lovetoxso gajim cant write anymore to PEP
lovetoxbut in 0.16.6
lovetoxit could read from PEP
lovetoxso it read always from PEP
lovetoxbut couldnt write or delete something from there
lovetoxso new version fix is, that if gajim cant write to pep
lovetoxit also doesnt read from pep
lovetoxso i hope your other clients like psi etc, use also the old xml storage for boomarks
lovetoxso gajim will use also now xml storage for boomarks
lovetoxand everything can sync with each other
HolgerIf PEP works, Gajim will use both?
Link MauveHolger, yes, IIRC.
Link MauveIt will read from PEP and store to both.
HolgerStore just changes to both I guess?
Link MauveThere is no concept of changes, writes are atomic.
HolgerOr will both end up being identical?
HolgerNot at the protocol level, but if a user adds a bookmark, Gajim could just add that bookmark to both and leave the (possibly differing) remaining bookmarks untouched.
Link MauveOh.
Link MauveNo, it doesn’t do that.
Link MauveThat would require it to load from both at any time, since another resource may have changed the Private XML..
Link MauveThat would require it to load from both at any time, since another resource may have changed the Private XML.
HolgerRight. I'm not saying it should, just wondering how it works.
Link MauveThat was the main reason to switch to PEP, so that other resources would get the changes as they happen.
HolgerYup.
HolgerPEP totally makes sense for this of course. Assuming the node is stored persistently ...
HolgerAnd what's the issue with jabber.ru?
Link MauveAnd isn’t accessible by other people.
Holgershould probably read backlog.
Link MauveThey don’t expose something Gajim checks for, IIRC.
Holger(But it's so much easier to have you guys explain everything again for me!)
HolgerAh.
Link Mauve(Hehe. :p)
lovetoxso Holger, about this bookmarks best practice xep
lovetoxif i write a email to @standards, would you add what the questions are regarding this
lovetoxbecause i cant really articulate it :D
HolgerErm, I think I have no questions? :-)
HolgerExcept I'd be interested in what exactly jabber.ru gets wrong.
lovetoxso what, the xep makes sense now and is correct?
lovetoxbecause then i write no email :)
HolgerOh sorry, now I know what you mean.
lovetoxbecause it seems there are no servers who enable the options that the xep wnats
lovetoxso either admins dont know about it
HolgerYou mean our discussion from a few days ago and expect me to still remember even though it's ... a few days ago!
lovetoxor they think its wrong :)
HolgerYes, the question is what exactly the intention behind using pubsub#publish-options in this XEP is and whether people think it should stay that way (despite servers not supporting it).
HolgerAnd if they do I have some follow-up questions regarding the details. I'll post them in that case, yes.
lovetoxnice k i write the mail now thanks
HolgerSounds good.
HolgerThe intention might be to double check that the pubsub#persist_items and pubsub#access_model node configuration options are really set. I.e. to check this whenever bookmarks are stored, as opposed to just checking this once at the beginning of the session or whatever.
HolgerI could understand that intention, but the question is whether it wouldn't be more pragmatic to drop it given the missing support.
HolgerBut if we don't drop it, I think it's clearly underspecified how exactly this is supposed to work.
HolgerIf I'm just overlooking the details, or if they are clarified by a 0060 update, I'd add server-side support.
Holger"I've never used a mailing list" lets me feel sooo old BTW!
lovetoxhaha :D
lovetoxbtw Holger, when gajim gets bookmarks from private storage
lovetoxand there is a new bookmark in there, it adds this and publishes to pubsub