Holgerpatrik: No, sorry, I use 14.x. You'd have to adjust the code a bit to make it work with 2.x.
patrikHolger: Thanks. So it's possible to use the module with some small adjustments? Do you use 14.x within Debian?
Holgerpatrik: The adjustments are not too heavy, but probably not easy to figure out unless you're into ejabberd development.
Holgerpatrik: I build ejabberd from source (on Debian), but a proper 14.07 package will probably be available soon (it's in the NEW queue). Until then you could get one here: https://www.jabber.at/en/apt-repository
patrikHolger: Thank you very much. Last question. Do you use wheezy? Unfortunately I'm still under squeeze.
Holgerpatrik: My production ejabberd is currently still running on squeeze, too.
LordVan!help
LordVan-help
leonhi
leonis there a reason why gajim has stopped tab completing topics in the /topic command in recent versions, or is it that a bug?
leonat least in 0.16rc1 it doesn’t work
noonhello
amanis now evening or noon?
LordVandepends where ^^
patrikHolger: That's interesting. So did you install erlang from squeeze-backports and than built ejabberd 14.07 yourself?
Holgerpatrik: Exactly.
Holgerpatrik: But I do it that way just because I apply a bunch of local patches and whatnot anyway. Otherwise I'd install the package from jabber.at.
patrikHolger: And really works? ;-) Very cool. Thank you very much for this hint.
patrikHolger: But there are no 14.07 packages for squeeze.
Holgerpatrik: Ah sorry, then I misinterpreted the table on <https://www.jabber.at/en/apt-repository>.
patrikHolger: "Ubuntu 12.04 and Debian Squeeze only contain ejabberd-2.1.13, because ejabberd 13.06 and newer requires a newer Erlang version."
patrikHolger: So that's why I consider to build myself.
patrikHolger: But good to know that it works for you. Thanks!
Holgerpatrik: Ah, I hadn't scrolled down that far, sorry :-)
Holgerpatrik: Yes, building from source works fine for me. Feel free to ping me if you try it yourself and run into issues, but I guess we should now really save this room from further ejabberd talk :-)
patrikHolger: Thank you very much. And yes you're completely right! This is the end of this discussion. ;-)
Dr. WatsonHow do I explain why to use decentralized XMPP instead of facebook, google hangouts etc? if the person doesn't care about online privacy
aruneDr. Watson: does he/she care about open source? 😒
Dr. WatsonThat's a good point. But I don't have a special person in mind at this moment, but the question came up multiple times in the past and most of them didn't care about that either.
vornerDo they care about their service of choice suddenly shutting down? Or censoring the posts?
Dr. WatsonNeither nor. They simply don't care at all about those important things. All they want is mainstream communication with all the normal not-nerds
mrDoctorWhothat's problem of service. They see fb or others like a good service, so they don't care about anything else and they won't change it to another which is probably will be not as good as was previous.
Dr. WatsonAnd I have to confess that my buddy list is quite empty, so in terms off "all the world is filling my contact list" they are right. XMPP is not as easy to set up, too
mrDoctorWhothis is a problem of clients, not protocol's
Dr. WatsonBut you can encrypt your connection to the server, you can encrypt your message all the way to its destination and you can trust most of the server admins
mrDoctorWhothey tell "nobody needs to spy on me"
Dr. WatsonBecause a lot of them refuse to filter all the things
Dr. WatsonYeah, "I have nothing to hide"
mrDoctorWhoexactly
Dr. WatsonI do agree on that but if I send you a message I don't want it to be read by whoever is able to read my traffic
Dr. WatsonBecause I send it to exactly you and not the nsa.
mrDoctorWhoby the way you're now sending through 3rd-person's server
Dr. WatsonWhat about an easy to use client for all the services you might ever use? Email, XMPP, Facebook, Twitter, IRC, etc... but let it have easy to use security protocols like OTR, PGP/GPG, SMP, etc
Dr. Watson(there is pidgin which needs the easy-to-use part and gui improvements)
mrDoctorWhoThat would be funny to encrypt the twitter
mrDoctorWhothat's microblogging service, why it should be encrypted then?
Link MauveWhat about Gajim is “not as easy to set up” as facebook?
Link MauveBecause last time I looked at it, you needed to have a working email address and to give a shitton of informations, before you could register to facebook.
Link MauveWhile Gajim requires a server, an username and a password.
mrDoctorWhoThe social networks goal was is to make a easy way to find your friends. I'm not telling that's not possible in xmpp, but people don't know about that. Now we came to another problem: jabber is not advertised
Link MauveAh, that.
Dr. WatsonYou are right. We need to advertise Jabber!
Dr. WatsonJust tested what the ACE says in terms of empty resource strings. Turns out that there it works with an empty string and (after reconnecting) the server generates a random resource string for me (or Gajim, dunno). So the GUI needs to be fixed there, but I can't do it.